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Looks like Yankee fans will have to pair someone else with Andujar in all of their mock trades now.

I'VE HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH THE CVS BASHING

Sour candy? That’s dumpster diving. Padres would have fancy chocolates

trying to figure out if there is an angle south side hit men can tie in to rant about TLR and gummy's and then post a youtube video of bow wow wow's I want candy

Man when I opened this I hoped it was really about candy and not some metaphor for what being a fan is like but hell yes I can't wait to buy these

You are so full of shit it's unbelievable at this point.

Of course the White Sox can't evaluate candy either, so it ends up sour.

End the thread here.

Got these at Marshalls today. As a sour candy fan, they're pretty fire! I recommend for those who enjoy sour candy.

Today, Ron and I are brothers.

Yea but cvs will give you a ten foot long receipt

The guy who got the job directly out of FSU undergrad is still working with his team and has moved his way up quite a bit. And as for your second response, it's not really amazing given that the industry is a black hole of exploitation that only a very select few get out of the void, while the majority work long hours with very few guarantees, and no protection during a pandemic. The way baseball managed the pandemic was shameful given that they already exploit analysts and then kicked them to the curb instead of paying them the minuscule wages (in comparison to their skills and credentials) they were being paid. No, they have a better chance because many of the positions that exist are currently held by white people and psychology studies have shown us time and time again that people are more likely to hire people that LOOK like them, even if they don't believe they have any biases. You can read about this in "Nudge" or "Misbehaving" by behavioral economist Richard Thaler. You can also read about it briefly in "Thinking Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahnman. It also explains, as I already explained, why the executive ratios in all industries do not equal the national population breakdown OR the college educated national breakdown. This isn't merely a race issue, it's also a gendered issue. Baseball isn't alone in this problem, although one could argue that nepotism is even more grotesque in baseball than it is in other industries.

Oh great, you have testimonial evidence that completely undermines anything that widely known and understood. Which teams were ran by the "several analysts" you know? The topic at hand is about executives in the front office so not sure how your hoards of analyst friends apply. Though it is amazing none of the several people you know were able to keep a job in sports during covid. As for the second part, that's you twisting words to beat down a narrative you want to beat down. White people have a better shot at obtaining anything in this country because they make up more than half the population. But yeah you're right, every white executive in baseball got the job because they know someone and it had nothing to do with the ivy league resumes, top MBAs/JDs, etc. It's all about who you know. Andrew Freidman learned how to build without a payroll because of his dad's buddy, Rick Hahn negotiates contract extensions better than anyone because his uncles knows Reinsdorf, etc. The only person belittling here is you. Did you read the article that started this topic or are you just trying to poke holes in my posts talking about a subject you don't seem to understand?

I know several people who broke into operations straight out of undergrad at places like FSU and Wisconsin - so I'd say your broad ranging proclamation is just not true. I also know several analysts/data science grads from local schools who went to work in analytics in baseball and left because of the treatment and layoffs during the pandemic coupled with the sub-par pay. Additionally it feels as though your belittling the idea that white people have a better shot by stating it's driven by resume and your whiteness didn't get you in either. Just as is the case in most gate-keeped industries, networking and knowing someone involved is more beneficial than any ivy league degree.

Chuck has really dove into homer territory the past few seasons. Sometimes I feel like he says stuff just to say it. Hope he is right, but I would be beyond shocked.

So, this is great in a vacuum but it's also a very white thing to say. Fact is, you (just like most) have inherent biases and those biases easily infiltrate the concept of "best hire" to be one of someone who looks most like you. There have been tons of studies done on this. I think Williams brings up a great point; for minority candidates they are often times discredited for not having enough experience, but a ton of white people get a shot with very little experience at all. Executive level positions in this country, in general (beyond just baseball) do not break down racially or gender-wise with either general population racial/gender identities or college education racial/gender identities. That alone should tell you that the "best candidate" is passed over time and time again. Hell, women are still under paid, as are many minorities, in comparison to their equal-footed peers.

I’d take that Harper contract of their hands…. 😉

A+ name.

The Pirates added the Jack Hammer to the 40 man. Good for him.

I waited to post that tweet until I saw multiple beat writers reporting it was for just cash. I'm shocked no team was willing to deal a marginal prospect + cash for him if that's what the Rays really wanted. I think we all would have been very excited to have Honeywell as a lottery ticket arm on the Sox.

The level of depth in the Rays organization is incredible. Myers would be a guy people would be excited about in almost any other org and they don't have a spot for him.

Kimbrel for Segura is as obvious of a trade as it gets, if the Phillies are willing to deal from their big league roster.

Kimbrel and ______ (you fill it in) from WSox for Phillies top 3 prospects. https://www.philliesnation.com/2021/09/phillies-nation-top-20-phillies-prospects-september-2021/ .

Well that's delusional. No way are they serious about this.

Just bought 3 bags. Thanks, Ron!

Sour Patch Kids put in work. The Padres can keep their Scharffen Berger Chocolate Bar.

Of course you're a CVS guy!

The CVS pharmacists were such assholes to me one time. I'm never going back there again. They also NEVER have Ben and Jerry's Phish Food in stock. Fuck CVS.

I won't believe it until Hector Gomez says so.

He's a nice player but he's no where near untradable. If they can include him in a package for a high impact player they would be insane not to do it.

With all due respect, this is one of the worst ideas I’ve heard. so you want to trade our studs AND spend a huge amount of money on a guy who is chronically injured?? look, i adore buxton and would be floored to have him play for us. But why wouldn’t we just keep our dudes and sign a stud of for the money?? Or if we were going to trade them, why not trade them for a guy who isn’t about to hit free agency and stays on the field?

This is such a weird conclusion to draw from this.

Who says there aren't? Why do you assume that the promotion of minority hires into MLB only accounts for black people and not hispanic people or other people of non-white makeups? Also, how do Hispanics have three times the population? What data/numbers are you using to state that?

https://www.startribune.com/twins-byron-buxton-trade-credibility-issue/600118187/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=twins We should just trade Eloy OR Vaughn and Crochet and 2 minor leaguers for Buxton, sign him to an extension and solve the diversity issue in one fell swoop. Now that would be ballsy, since the risk level would be extremely elevated. But those two guys in the same outfield together would be amazing.

For sure but the hope would be for equity in opportunity and not necessarily outcome. While it would be impossible to have the demographic breakdown of executives in baseball to mirror the population of the country, it should be more closely aligned with the demographics of the game. For instance, Kenny Williams broached this issue in reference to AA's but it would seem the Latino community is the most excluded. Looking at the demographics of Ivy League schools, the Asian demo is typically double and sometimes 4-5x their population of the US. African American population is typically underrepresented with exceptions (Harvard, Yale). The white population is underrepresented in almost every case usually making up 40-45% of Ivy League schools with the population of the country making up more than half. In every case, the Hispanic population is underrepresented in the Ivy League. Digging into these demographics the conclusion to take away isn't really about whites or black people as they are both slightly underrepresented to their proportionate share of the population. The takeaway is the Latin community is significantly under represented and the Asian and Jewish populations clearly prioritize higher education and have the means to send their kids there leading to these demos being over-represented to their proportionate share of the US pop by multiples. Looking at the demographics of the MLB, whites and Asian American are slightly under-repped. African American are more significantly underrepresented and the Hispanic population in the MLB is much higher than the relative share of the USA population. Why is there no one clamoring for more opportunity for Hispanics in the front offices when the severity of the lack of representation is so much higher? Given the Hispanic population has almost 2x the US population as AA in the USA and 4-5x the population as AA in the MLB, you would think they would have representation somewhere near their relative share of the population. I can think of an Irish ex, Black exec, an Italian GM, an Armenian GM, Chinese exec, etc. but can't think of one Hispanic. In any case, if you look into the numbers after KW's comments and you find yourself wondering why the Latin pop is so underrepresented. For one thing, the majority of Hispanics in the MLB came to America because of baseball. Surely a part of this discrepancy is due to the fact that a good deal of these guys don't really have any interest in living a Western life and will return to their home country when their playing days are over. To me, the league has to do more to attract young black kids to the game and the relative share of execs will bounce when the relative share of the game's population increases. Crazy how much the black population in MLB has dropped since the 80's. Getting equal representation of Latin's on the executive side seems to be a much bigger issue and much more complicated to fix as this group is typically not American-born or high school educated.

Once they're traded, Caulfield will be all about them.

I've heard of all of those minor leaguers. Not even sure who you are referring to but Denlinger and Luna were 2021 draft picks.

I would pay good money to see Phil Collins doing karaoke on the road with the team during “Dress Like Moncada Day”.

https://www.southsidesox.com/2021/11/6/22763893/luke-smailes-chicago-white-sox-offseason-plan Everyone in Soxosphere has us trading for Ketel Marte. Somehow adding Kiermaier and Wendle in one trade, Fathom special. Might as well bring back Colome on MLI. Keuchel for Bradley, Jr., might drive everyone nuts. Guaranteed Keuchel ends up Top Ten in Cy voting again next year, lol. This guy has the Sox trading two minor leaguers nobody has even heard of…

Tony Kemp until 2021, his age 29 season, never put up a 1.0 fWAR season. I am thinking outlier.

- Tony Kemp played 50 games in LF last year, bats left, 130 wRC+ vs. RHP. His arm rated as positive when he was in CF in 2018 - Bet on Kole Calhoun healthy - Kevin Keiermeier trade Or damn handedness and get Mark Canha and have added two RHH who are 20%+ above average vs. RHP.

Amazing he is still in the league after 2020, really

After last years injuries and piecing things together, i am all for overkill

For $100 million +, I hope he can make fans forget the league minimum Nicky Two Strikes. Remeber, the Sox didn't sign Machado becasuse they said they couldn't afford his 8th year. They just jacked up the cost of 2B for years before that. That trade was a disaster, and I am not anti-Kimbrel.

Semien has also become an exceptionally good hitter versus RHP, for a guy who bats from the right side. Take a look at his split stats, in recent years. Sure would make Sox fans forget about "Nicky Two Strikes". Adding Conforto and Semien to that lineup would make it the most potent in baseball. If they added a top of the rotation starter, another bullpen arm, and a defense first, back up catcher, they might just become odds on favorites to win it all next season. If Garfein is correct, it would appear that Mr. Reinsdorf is all in, which means that he would also be willing to fund the other necessary acquisitions. LaRussa knows the value of pitching depth and wouldn't advise spending all of the resources on offense. It certainly would be surprising to see the Sox spend that kind of money, but maybe the Chairman expects to capture the city's fan base, by putting together a roster that grabs the spot light. Fun to dream big, at any rate. Frankly, it seems like overkill, with more offense than needed. Adding Semien and Conforto to an already good lineup of Anderson, Robert, Moncada, Abreu, Eloy, Grandal and either Vaughn or Sheets, is probably not the best allocation of player salaries. Remember, this team did not have either Eloy, or Robert, for most of last season. I'd prefer one solid middle of the order, LH bat and more pitching depth. Bring back Rodon, sign another capable starter and a good set up man, for the pen. It seems like a team needs about 7 starters to overcome the injuries, in this era.

That happens and I’m intentionally pooping my pants for shits and giggles.

See, that's why I never tell my live-in chef my secrets.

Christ I must have missed him coming back. Glad we're all going to have our good taste of misery back in full swing on here.

43% of MLB players are either Hispanic (32%), Black (8%) or Asian (3%). Their representation at the top executive positions (GM, President, Owner)? A small fraction of this. The Selig Rule memo was released during the last millennium, on April 14, 1999. But yeah you are correct, executives such as Kenny Williams, Theo Epstein and others in the industry who recognize and seek to change this disparity are wrong. Not that I expect someone who posted your drivel to actually comprehend and/or accept these statements. PS - Your weak-ass Basketball/Football participation theory doesn't hold water. NFL - There are the same number of Black head coaches as in 2003 (the year the Rooney Rule was implemented), and one General Manager (Chris Grier). NBA - Until 2017, there were more racist NBA owners (at least two now known - Sterling, Sarver) than NBA Presidents (one - Doc Rivers, who sadly had to work for Sterling), and only three GMs (Dell Demps, Steve Mills and Masai Ujiri). The level of black participation over the 70 years prior had zero impact on who the owners hired or, more accurately, did not / refused to hire. It took an actual commitment by ownership, the people with final say with these decisions, to begin making clear and widespread changes to how their league was run. It's clear MLB and NFL owners collectively have a long way to go, two plus decades after issuing their respective "rules", to begin to make an actual difference.

If KW goes to another team, I will instantly become a fan of that team.