poppysox Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 13 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: To be fair, Frobby & Sports Guy both are aligned to a Kjerstad / Cowser + Ortiz framework. They just feel like the O’s don’t need to go any higher than that. Fans never want to overpay. We want to give up half a dozen crap players for the other guy's star. The best trades are Dick Allen for Tommy John straight up type deals. I have a need...you have a need. We have a need for a high-quality right fielder, and a high-quality second baseman. Whoever can best fill that order can have Cease IMO. I know that we can use some high-quality pitchers as well...but we aren't going to receive 3 high end players for 2 years of Cease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Sarava said: Seems pricey for what he brings. But I'm happy for Lucas. This is an example of why teams are reluctant to trade their decent pitching prospects. Below mediocrity has a high price in baseball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 14 hours ago, wegner said: I wish nothing but the best for Giolito, but I do question if the Boston GM watched much baseball late in the season. Were the Angels and Guardians games blacked out where he lived? Red Sox do have money and Yankees and Red Sox both seemed to want Gio. So it looks like Gio got some extra bucks thrown in for him to go w Boston. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Big money for a terrible season. They must think they can fix him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: To be fair, Frobby & Sports Guy both are aligned to a Kjerstad / Cowser + Ortiz framework. They just feel like the O’s don’t need to go any higher than that. What I’ve said is I don’t think we should go higher than that unless and until circumstances force us to. That could happen and hopefully Elias keeps his ear to the ground and will be ready to respond if some team makes an offer that’s better than Kjerstad/Cowser and Ortiz. But I do think those two for Cease would work out well for the White Sox even without additional pieces. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Soxfest Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Insanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Ouchies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Woof. Poor guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Bob noted that Boston is checking in on Montgomery now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Woof. Poor guy. Oh damn. I wonder if that is why he fell apart last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Oh damn. I wonder if that is why he fell apart last year? After I saw the original post I went to go look at his 2023 season and he was actually pretty solid for us and then completely fell off the cliff when he was traded so I would imagine this had something to do with it. He was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Pitcher Sox traded away gets injured. Sky is blue. Grass is green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Velocity don't lie. This was a ticking time bomb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 More fuel for JR to never sign another big name starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 16 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: Velocity don't lie. This was a ticking time bomb. What's wild is he actually gained velocity after leaving us, and then fell back to Chicago levels in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I wonder if this opens them at all for Cease? I wouldn't think so as their pitching was doodoo before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I wonder if this opens them at all for Cease? I wouldn't think so as their pitching was doodoo before. Boston does have some young interesting position players though. Might solve a few problems but wouldn't help with SP. Maybe a 3 way trade would work but that is kind of late in the preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuban_sammiches Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Damn. That's too bad. I always liked Gio and wished him well. I wonder how Rodon is doing in New York. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Sucks for him. I feel bad for Lucas he's a very good dude. Now Boras has BOS over a barrel on Montgomery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Too bad. Wouldn't this be TJS #2 for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 28 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Sucks for him. I feel bad for Lucas he's a very good dude. Now Boras has BOS over a barrel on Montgomery. I believe Lorenzen, Clevinger or Greinke are the more likely targets as they don’t look to be competitive this season. A long term Montgomery deal could make sense, though will have to wait and see if ownership will step up. They have plenty of revenue and CBT space, but they also dumped Sale’s contract to get $9M under 2023 payroll, which is why their fans are furious. Feel bad for Liam as well, since he likely signed with Boston for the chance to also compete this season. Edited March 5 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 31 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Too bad. Wouldn't this be TJS #2 for him? yep, he had it when he was 18 also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 To bad for Gio, he is a good dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 His second TJS, that sucks. At least he got a little cash tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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