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It's unfortunate but Ozzie is closer to losing his job right not than Tony is.

Fuck off, Ron.

Why does this organization not understand he’s only a DH. He cannot play in the outfield yet they continue to run him out there….smdh

Jon Heyman sucks. If Ozzie knocked him out in a ring I'd give him a lifetime job as manager.

Change the Channel

Look Ozzie should never manage in MLB again, and these last couple of days of running his mouth are exactly why. FULL STOP But again, the fact that it took Ozzie Guillen to put the Sox on to the media's radar locally is borderline negligence by the sports media in Chicago. It shouldn't take Ozzie running his mouth to focus a laser on what is going on with the White Sox. For a team that came into the season with stated world championship goals to be here, and for no one to be screaming their heads off about it, except Ozzie, just means people aren't doing much at their jobs.

For all you Ozzie haters.....the man brought a World Series to Chicago, end of story. It wasn't happening in 2005 without Ozzie's leadership and we would currently have the longest losing streak in baseball without him.

What has Ozzie said that was wrong? Just because he said what everyone else has witnessed and is thinking doesn’t make him the bad guy.

This is supposed to be in the heart of the Sox World Series window. Instead it's a below .500, drama-filled disaster. Just don't find the humor in any of this. It's all just such a wasted opportunity. It was all right there for the taking. I've said it before and I'm sure it will be said again. I just can't fathom how these billion-dollar businesses are run so poorly. Boggles the mind.

White Sox Baseball - “Change the game”…..more like Jackassary at its finest

I never want to see a player get injured but losing Eloy is not a big deal. He can't run, he can't field, he can't throw. He is a klutz who is often injured. If he doesn't hit which he hasn't been he is more of a liability than anything.

I’m seeing a slimmed down Prop Joe from The Wire when Ramirez is up.

Colas with his first extra base hit at AA

Ozzie apparently worked everyone up.

This how I feel about the White Sox!

In this thread we boycott this thread

No but we can talk about unique breakfast tacos

Yick! As much as I hate what's going on I still want to win every game.

I'll try this again with you. We have documented history that in the last 5 years, the Royals held an organizational seminar with players to discuss the negative effects of masturbation and pornography. I don't recall another example of that in professional sports, but anti-masturbation seminars also aren't a hobby of mine, so maybe I missed others that took place. Dayton Moore, President of the Royals, is quote " Very public with his faith, openly sharing his adherence to Christianity, and how it impacts his life." Mike Matheny, current manager of the Royals, was quoted as saying "First, my faith has been clear and open. Every year at spring training I explain to my guys I stand for certain things as a follower of Christ." Now, being a Christian is far from a crime, and good for Dayton Moore and Mike Matheny for being confident in what they believe in. Go nuts. Don't have any issue with that. I do believe however given the importance of their religion to Moore and Mathey, probably the two biggest decision makers in that organization, it's not a random happenstance that their organization would hold a seminar on the detrimental effects of pornography to professional baseball players. According to Pew in 2021: "A large majority of Republicans identify as Christians, substantially higher than the share of Democrats who are Christians. Conversely, Democrats are much more likely than Republicans to be religiously unaffiliated – describing themselves as atheists, agnostics or “nothing in particular” when asked about their religion." Additionally, "Religiously unaffiliated voters make up 38% of Democratic voters. This has roughly doubled since 2008, when this group made up 18% of Democrats. Over this period, the share of Democratic voters who are Christians has declined from 74% to 52%. White Christians continue to make up a large majority of Republican voters. White evangelical Protestants are about a third (32%) of Republican voters, unchanged from 2008. However, the shares who are white non-evangelical Protestants (22% in 2008 vs. 16% today) and white Catholics (18% vs. 15%) have decreased." Link the findings here: Link Here We then jump to the topic at hand, vaccines. According to Brookings in October of 2021, Of Americans surveyed from Sept. 13-22, 72% of adults 18 and older had been vaccinated, including 71% of white Americans, 70% of Black Americans, and 73% of Hispanics. Contrast these converging figures with disparities based on politics: 90% of Democrats had been vaccinated, compared with 68% of Independents and just 58% of Republicans." Link here So...given that the Kansas City Royals have an incredibly high number of players that will now appear on the restricted list because they are unvaccinated, more than any other team thus far this season...Yes, I do believe the organization played a role in or had an influence in player decision making process...something you are very clearly against.

Interesting how the antivax players don't have an issue trusting medical experts when their elbows blow out or they pull a hammy.

Bye mom! ?

Maybe if something wasn’t ALWAYS going bad it’s a different story

Lol, he fucking leaves his feet and turns his back into it, he literally did everything he could to get hit by it, lol, lol, lol

TA has been pretty dumb on the bases lately.

3 hit night for Ramos, and a double for Sosa!

I assume we'll just waste a roster spot "waiting" before we IL him during the ASB.

Congratulations you fucking asshole.

For two years we have been SCREAMING about making Eloy the full time DH, yet Hahn has placed him in left. How many injuries is it going to take for Hahn to get it through his head that Eloy in left is a liability to himself and the others around him? HE IS A DH

The savagery is strong in this one.

Montgomery is a monster. Over 1.000 OPS at A+. Good to see Colas getting started off right at AA.

How Ozzie quit was laughable, no doubt, but guy is only manager who has brought us a title so I'm not gonna pretend like I'd rather have la russa. Ozzie is drama with fun. Right now we have drama with no fun.

That was my immediate takeaway as well. I also wouldn't have Kelley ahead of Mena.

Sosa is way too low

So uh, BPro has him #40 overall. Do not fucking trade him Hahn.

This has been a delightful 48 hours in terms of public skewering of TLR. Absolutely love it. Still don't think Tony gets fired (you can call it a promotion if you'd like, whatever), but feels more realistic than ever he won't finish the year as the manager. I fucking hate waiting until the ASB tho. These next 5 games before the ASB are absolutely critical to getting back into this thing. If they do under Tony's watch, it feels like it could be enough to sway old man Jerry into hanging on.

Ozzie burying Heyman right now and still backing what he said about Tony last night

It just shows you how bad our organization is compared to those that want to try and win.

I went back to the last update from bmags post and did the + - thing accordingly. Looks like the top 7 hasn't changed for those wondering.

Listening to TLR try to explain why they walked Ramirez yesterday after 0-1 count was the most bizarre thing I have heard a Manager say. I'm pretty sure part of the mumbling and rambling was him blaming it on Davis. The players have quit on him. They have 0 respect for him. They are playing to get him fired. The only chance this team has at possibly turning things around is for TLR to resign or be fired. Everyone knows it but only JR can make that happen.

Yes, this the real live actual game thread. No idea what Ron is doing, per usual.

We must strive mightily to lose

You mean you’d tell him to beat it?

Guys we have a short window, but if TLR is fired within the week he will have been fired in 1986 and 2022 when Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick were in theaters, respectively. Thank you Tom Cruise!

In this thread we protest, not talk about the game and strive mightily to lose. Go Guardians!

Glad to see even when Ozzie isn't the Sox manager, he can still take all of the attention away from the team on to himself.

Certainly not TLR holding up that sign.

The thing is, teams failing always use other teams that failed but somehow turned it around as the example of the pace they are on. The problem is, the chances of crap like that happening all the time are zero. I am old enough to remember when the White Sox had a 2-0 lead over Boston in the 2005 Divison Series, ESPN saying the Red Sox had them right where they wanted them because they overcame a 3-0 deficit to the Yankees the year before. Teams below .500 at the midway point aren't like the 2021 Braves and win the WS. It's a pipedream to think this team is a WS contender at this point.

I said earlier that I thought it was too late to use the health issues excuses and everyone would see through it for what it was, but I buy into what you're saying. If he's actually going to step down, it makes sense to get some time to make an internal transition plan and have plan in place. The all-star break also gives the team, etc. the to adjust and get replacements into position. I buy that there may be internal conversations going on saying "I'm stepping down in a week so let's get our ducks in a row" etc. Here's hoping, at least.

Don’t hold your breath for a response. If you make a good point while responding to @Harold's Leg Lift, he just won’t give you an answer.