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And here’s to you, Chuckie Robinson, Pedro loves you more than you will know.

I’d be shocked if Kelenic were involved. I also don’t think it’s the Braves. It would’ve been done already if it were going to be Atlanta imo.

Ain’t a Sox fan on earth that doesn’t love everything about that team.

Seems to be alot more smoke today. Hopefully he decides soon and can start getting cease rumors again

I think Jermaine Dye would like to have a word.

He’s gonna end up getting two centers (basketball), two more centers (football), another center (hockey), and one more center (soccer? Are there centers in soccer?) I don’t know what this post is.

Realistically I assume Getz will take the best package available, positions be damned.

And good luck trying to win games at GRF in the summer with pitching and defense when the park plays small.

You know Tony, there is one sure fire way to convince everyone you’re not part of the decision-making process, and that’s to go the f*** away and never have any contact with this team again…

So the key figure in this is Jerry. In reading the article you posted, on the topic of how insanely bad not only the organization is, but specifically the minor league system and depth…Jerry decided the best man to run the entire organization was the teams minor league director the last 7 years. Jerry has also made the decision to continue to use TLR as an advisor for “baseball matters.” I think it’s perfectly reasonable for fans to call into question the individuals Jerry surrounds himself with, given their historically bad track record, no?

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/white-sox-sign-chuckie-robinson-to-minors-contract.html

Woah, woah, woah.

Dye, Crede, Pods creating havoc at the top, AJ being AJ, they were way more than “Konerko, Rowand, and Iguchi” offensively.

Pods/Iguchi first half...Konerko Crede Dye Everett AJ Uribe just enough pop.

The 05 Sox were 5th in baseball in homers. They had 7 guys with 15+ homers. Obviously not a juggernaut offense by any means, but they got decent production up and down the lineup. Definitely not what I would call a “Konerko, Rowand, and Iguchi” offense.

Bill Walton/Johnny Depp

I love Ramos, but he does not belong in the same sentence with Montgomery, let alone Robert. Robert is a superstar, Montgomery is a guy who has to pan out or they are screwed. Ramos is a guy trying to sneak into the Top 100, who may or may not end up a first division regular. This org needs impact bats. Especially if this is all Vaughn ever becomes.

Bingo!

Haven’t we learned that banking on prospect bats to pan out is a bad strategy? Yes, they can definitely use more pitching, but they need SO many more bats to go with Colson and Ramos.

Ugh....that could blow up in their faces. Too much risk. They have to make a deal before ST.

It should be readily apparent to every White Sox front person that power is what wins at the Rate. I’m not going to overreact to the fact Getz is prioritizing defense with his filler signings since generally speaking defense is much cheaper to acquire. That being said, the Cease trade will be very telling of what Getz is thinking long term.

In a perfect world we would have run prevention (pitching & defense) + run production (power & manufacturing runs), but nothing is perfect. The good to great teams have a balance. Pitching & defense keep you in games, but scoring runs wins. That’s at least how I like to think of it. If we were building up a system from scratch with multiple means of finding pitching and hitting, I might focus more on the pitching part. But with only one shot to infuse high end talent into a mostly barren system, I’m choosing bats first.

I just don’t see them adding Kelenic with basically 3 top 100 guys.

This would be the best scenario.

You win by scoring more runs than the other guys. If you do that by winning 1-0 or 10-9, it doesn't matter. That said, get bats in return as headliners and develop the pitchers you get as secondary pieces.

My first thought on this thread was "Thou doth protest too much"

Quite sad how in the worst division in baseball, the Sox will clearly have the least amount of talent

He's an advisor to Reinsdorf. He was an advisor to Reinsdorf before he was manager. It's no different than before except everyone now is on hyper LaRussa alert.

That 2006 team was better on paper too. I’m still mad how they finished that season.

"Supposedly" Dan Clark's "reporting" is spurious at best.

They had the best balanced offense I could remember...among the top quarter of the league in home runs, stolen bases, sacrifice bunts, infield hits and sacrifice flies. They could beat you with a blast, a bloop or a bunt.

Hoping Boston's offer wins out to put pressure on the O's. Baltimore needs to be a motivated buyer already. Edit - or NYY. Preferably an AL East team.

Buehrle, Garcia, Contreras, Garland and El Duque were the key to 2005.

I agree with this. If the best 3 are pitchers, they can certainly be flipped right over to a team looking for that in exchange for their 2B/OF LHH prospect.

I think Getz would be limiting the return by going pitching heavy. Get the best 3 guys from one system even if the 3 are all pretty equal. If Baltimore is keeping Cowser,Kjerstad, Holiday, I think a package of Coby Mayo, Dylan Beavers, Ortiz or Norby, Hall. Just take the best guys, no need to focus on pitching. You can trade Robert later for pitching. I'd love me some Andrew Painter after he heals up. Beavers is a savage you havent heard much about yet. Power hasn't shown up in games yet and that's good. Underestimate him for now. He's just 22 . Did well in A+, even better but less ABs (134) in AA in 2023.Tall, lean muscle , room to grow, gun for an arm, great swing. I think he's primed for a big season this year . Not sure he'll be back in AA to start the season. Probably won't stick in CF but ideal for RF. Reminds me physically a bit of Bellinger , his swing looks smoother not as violent probably not as good a fielder or runner , maybe a better arm.

Beckham is an analyst. It’s not even the same job

I think he’s going to be a badass.

You're looking at 2024 as the end product of a plan, which is the wrong idea. I wouldn't be surprised if Getz is working on a 3 year plan of a remodel. Remodel as in, they leave up one wall with the electric box connection for tax purposes after the rest of the structure was demo-ed

Thats what I have been saying for awhile FFS. Ever since that obviously ridiculous report about a deal getting done before the meetings

They weren’t

Veeck wasn't perfect but for sure he understood that he was in the entertainment business.

White Sox would never have the vision to pull something like that off... as early as the kid being in high school in Japan, he was on their radar with his destiny written in the stars seemingly. Then when things didn't align six years ago...they still had the foresight to wait for the right moment to strike.

Well, duh. Any guy who's married is adamant about not being the decision maker.

And the least amount of interest to get better The least amount of interest to pay someone, anyone who can play baseball WE SUCK!!!

Past? This isn’t our past yet.

Soroka and Fedde, and then dear lord , 3 days of dreadie.

Will Madonna, Carmen and Kim Jong Un come to the ceremony?

I am fine with it versus paying Maldonado or another washed vet $4-5M to be just as bad.

Let's be honest. Outside of a Robert, Cease, maybe a few other guys that people are hoping improve (like Vaughn), this roster is a garbage heap. It's a 95+ loss team.