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Wrong... The Abreu extension did.

I'm serious when i say this ... I'd give Keuchel 2/22 with a buy-out of like $2mm and a team option for another $12mm. That's it. I don't want him on my team in 2022 unless he really deserves it. Gio Gonzalez is fine as a warm body for me, but is interchangeable with others

I am not one to get worked up about minor league deals, but I hope this guy doesn't throw a pitch for the 2020 White Sox.

Ryu is probably the best pitcher left on the market now which of course means we won't get him.

That would be my version of the best the offseason could have been.

Ok, White Sox. It's time to get a fucking plan together here. Not adding a SP was not an option. You don't miss on Wheeler and just say "fuck it" after signing a 31 year old catcher to the richest deal in team history. Also, the fact that that was the richest deal in team history shows we've been on the sidelines doing jack squat for far too long.

How's he fit into the #TeamHahn picture?

https://twitter.com/Jim_Kane_/status/1207336836634497025?s=20

Maybe Hector Santiago is next. I get it, it's a minor league signing to perhaps fill the Charlotte staff, but can't they find something more interesting. You aren't going to want this guy on the mound in Chicago, he hasn't put up a 1 WAR since Kevin Youkilis was playing 3rd for the White Sox and you know most of the Charlotte staff seems to appear at least briefly in Chicago at some point. I get most guys that get what he gets are brutal. But maybe one of them has a shot to be better. He doesn't.

I'd honestly deal Collins in that deal, I think that's feasible. Wouldn't be upset at all.

Keppinger's contract was for 3yr/$12M. Reigning and undefeated fiscal responsibility champions.

If Cease and to a lesser extent Lopez don't improve, whoever they sign doesn't matter anyway, even if it were Wheeler.

Robert + Stiever/Dunning might get you in the conversation.

That all these options are bad is why we didn't want to be in the position of picking one.

It's going to be a quiet day. They don't want to upstage the 6ix9ine sentencing.

Can I just say that Felix Hernandez at this point in his career is absolute garbage. The idea of him as a starting pitcher for CWS is just at bad as as the idea of Dylan Covey being in our rotation for next year.

Fans shited all over the idea of Bumgarner at 4 years and now it's OK to hand that to a guy who doesn't miss bats in Keuchel?

Those are the logical moves, but my god are they ugly.

Why would we give up Madrigal for Price and Benintendi when: a) Price is 34 and projected to provide about 2 WAR a year on a contract worth approximately 60 million in negative value and Benintendi isn't worth 60 million in surplus value the next three years? b) We already obtained another LH OF. c) We are sitting on piles of money so why not spend it instead of sacrifing key pieces of the rebuild?

This off-season has become a debacle. We're debating over which of the bad choices is the better choice to make.

Price will not cost any trade chips much less a good one. He is strictly a money deal.

so uhh no one is talking about this, but why can't we just trade madrigal for snell, vaugh for sale, and sign keuchel? rotation Snell, Sale, Gio, Kopech, Keuchel and we win the next 2 or 4 world series

I doubt the #1 driver of veteran minor league contracts is performance. Maybe they like how he works? His messaging to younger pitchers? I'm not gonna waste my energy judging a minor league filler signing.

C'mon now Jason. It is the offseason, must I try to figure out SoxMath here too?

Someone update the Field of Dreams graphic

Ryu terrifies me more than any other free agent signing. His health issues are just such a major risk.

All they ever show is interest. Show some money!

The reason that I chose Keuchel and Nova as my personal choices, to target for the rotation, is that they are both a change of pace from our fireballing starters. Kopech, Cease and Lopez all throw hard. Moreover, maybe Nova could teach his cutter and Keuchel could help some of our guys to induce more ground balls. Of course, I would have much preferred Cole and Strasburg, but that was never going to happen, not even half of that fantasy. They're also both pretty durable.

I think this is a fair offer and nothing that will kill the Sox going forward.

Sox should offer 4/72 for Ryu. I think that might get it done.

Give Ryu a 4th year, and consider him the recipient of the Sox being terrible most of the last decade plus. Get the man signed.

All they ever show is interest. Show some money!

I think keuchel or ryu would be the best choice

White Sox lineup is still one big bat short if you ask me.

100%. Giollito, Kopech, and Cease need to develop into a solid 1-2-3 if we plan to contend for a WS anytime soon.

No mention of us anymore.

It's the Rays, I've been saying this, but they are weird... I wonder if they'd ask for Lopez or Rodon instead of Robert... One could wish.

Will Harris will turn 36 during the 2020 season. He will probably require a 3 year deal. He's been really good, but if he requires a three year deal....WOOF.

If they add someone I think Collins is traded. I could see him being the main piece in a Price/Beni deal.

I'm on board with three years for Keuchel around $15 million AAV. That is fair for the player and club. Talk of 4/$80 million is crazy town, no team is paying that.

Just the fact that we've gone from Zack Wheeler to David Price and Teheran shows you the rebuild is in serious trouble if all the young pitchers don't fulfill their optimistic projections (and when has that ever happened?) You can't have two full years of PRIME Moncada/Giolito jeopardized by one Tommy John surgery to Kopech and one misread Zack Wheeler market (by the entire front office), following a severe misread on the Machado market the previous off-season... The Twins and Indians can survive those kind of misses. We are not yet in that position. We're the large market team in the AL Central. We have unprecedented financial flexibility, SUPPOSEDLY. Clelveland is abandoning ship and the Twins haven't done anything major other than keeping Odorizzi and Pineda in house. Yet we're acting like the freaking Royals in the 1990's and 2000's for god's sake. We have conservatively another $50 million in broadcast revenues coming in, as well. It's ridiculous that we're in this completely desperate position...instead of being on the offensive, and making some aggressive low-risk moves with the "rebound/bounceback" pitchers like Wood, Walker, McHugh, Teheran, etc.

Crickets? You laid out a stupid bet without any wager that no one will remember in a year. I already said Mazara is here for two seasons. Meanwhile, you are having wet dreams of the Sox signing Springer next offseason for $100+ million dollars when Hahn can’t even land a much more important starting pitcher THIS offseason! All the while, name-calling me obtuse, dipshit, and troll. Amazing.

Really feels like Angels, Sox and Twins will split up Price, Ryu and Keuchel.

I am not 100% sold on Giolito yet. But to answer the question, no.

Do we need a wellness check on Hahn?

what The fuck are the Sox doing

I'm of the opinion that Steele Walker's value was the highest it would ever be. Theoretically, he could be used in a trade later. The Problem is, it's very likely that Walker would struggle in the AA Southern League as a 24 year old and his value would soften significantly.

This is a really bad thought.