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PC is ruining this country! Smh

Counting down the days until he’s gone. Jerry Reinsdorf ruined my favorite team in sports.

Makes sense

Absolutely amazing to see people get offended or upset at a team for considering the thoughts and feelings of a group of people whom we committed genocide against; as if these people have some innate attachment to the name Cleveland "Indians." Good on Cleveland; there's literally no reason to have an offensive team name; people who take pride in the offensive team name just confuse me.

Im not sure you are aware but the Native Americans actually never lived in India.

Because there’s no amount of b****ing about it now that can change it. By all means, let people keep calling and canceling their tickets. Those same people are the ones complaining they went cheap in free agency. Some people are hijacking every thread to find a way to complain about Tony, and maybe it’s me but it has not benefited the quality of the board.

I'm not quoting anyone, nor do I wish to discuss this other than to give my opinion... Tony La Russa shouldn't have been hired because there was no process...it was just Reinsdorf hiring a buddy, and that's not cool. Should he have had a stiffer penalty than what he's going to end up with? Certainly, but life ain't fair...and this falls under that category. The subject of moving on...my opinion...get it out of your system before spring training. If you can't find joy in the team you root for, then I understand that, and you should find something else that does give you joy if you can't let it go by February. Most Sox fans don't like this situation, but it's going to get old real fast if every decision that goes wrong is reacted to with "Tony is drunk tonight". That's not funny. It's lazy and lame. Last, I hope the Sox and La Russa make a statement that satisfies everyone...oh wait, that's impossible....most people. There should be a zero tolerance policy with Tony drinking and driving with ANY alcohol in his system. His days of drinking and driving are 100% over while employed by the Sox or he's fired, no questions asked.

The Cleveland Politically Correct Baseball Team

The difference is bmags can articulate his position in a way where when people are finished reading it, no one thinks “God what a colossal prick this guy is.”

Poor Ray Ray . No one understands him. I don't you don't. He tries and tries to make people see things his way and we just don't understand. We are all just nincompoops .

I'm not sure he's ever posted something that wasn't sarcasm, spam or attention-grabbing. Whether it's a shtick or a coincidence, the board would probably be better off without him

I'm never surprised when I see a terrible take and then I look at the name. Is this a shtick or that a coincidence?

Considering they're talking about clothes and not players, yes. Notice how no one really gets mad about Reds or Red Sox. Because, again, color and article of clothing. People aren't neutron-star dense and are able to differentiate between ethnicities and literal colors that exist on the visible light spectrum.

Screw him, lock him up

I think everybody here owes La Russa a heartfelt apology

Is Ray Ray actually Ricky Renteria or Ricky’s personal assistant? Ever since Ricky got canned, Ray has been going after the organization’s every move as well attacking everyone here. Also was constantly defending Ricky during his time with the Sox, especially last season when he was defending some truly awful late game bullpen decisions (decisions that I considered indefensible).

Personally I would be thrilled.

You have zero self-awareness. You're almost incapable of not making snarky comments (this very post is such an example). Seriously, the amount of times you say, "buddy" or, "pal" at the end of a sentence condescendingly could start drinking games and betting pools around here.

So of all of the things that people have held grudges for over decades of this ownership group, the one that could actually endanger people's lives is the one who should get over it. All of the hours spent b****ing in game threads about plays that didn't get made doesn't affect the quality of the board, but god forbid people are upset about hiring a two time felon hypocritical racist to run this team, and those are the people should get over it. Fuck that. It's bullshit.

No team in history more dominant than the Chicago bears with nothing to play for except making their future harder

Speak for yourself. I am thrilled.

It certainly doesn't feel good to be a White Sox fan right now.

See your low reputation point count. Must be a new poster... Welcome to Soxtalk!

Will Soxtalk move on from it?

Mine would not be sincere.

Alright, so now that this is settled the Sox can just fire him and get on with finding a new manager.

Wow, what a thread. Sandusky references and ray doing his thing. Tex said it all, yes, hell yes you would take that season from Eaton. Then you pick up his option and you have strong trade bait or in house affordable production for 2022.

Millionaire / Billionaire Justice. I hope Canada bans Tony's ass anyway, if baseball is ever played there again while he is manager. Law and order for thee, not for me.

Don Cooper

Maybe the thread title can be changed to this.

jeeze... at creating another thread for this conversation. My goodness people really need to feel that their opinions have been validated by others. Weird that Sox fans are thrilled to have a below average player in right field again... during a year when they're competing. Set that bar high, Sox fans. That's how winning organizations succeed - signing below average starters in Free Agency. People thrilled with having a guy who would rank in the bottom 3 of nearly every offensive statistic among right fielders in baseball lol... all while playing bad defense.

I agree with Ray Ray. First of all, only use WAR to evaluate players. Using anything else just clutters the picture, why would you want more data points? Secondly, only use the WAR evaluation that Ray Ray thinks is superior. He is right. Duh. And finally, if you can't have a 4 WAR (of Ray Ray's choosing) player at every position, what is the point? Why would anyone ever want a just that is a lousy 1.5 WAR player (remember, fWAR doesn't count for position players!). And seriously, cherry picking stats where a guy performed in the absolute highest pressure, most important situation is ridiculous. It is exactly the same as a few good games in the middle of June. Cmon people. Use your brains.

After doing some research, I’m all aboard the Kirby Yates train. He was the best reliever on the planet from 2017-2019. He struggled last year due to bone chips that he got removed. Pitchers tend to recover nicely from that surgery, and he should be ready for 2020. I like the idea of a shorter deal for him than 3 for Hendriks.

Equality for all!

And Adam Eaton doesn't?

Cali you win; you're the man.

I like Joc but he fits the profile of player that comes to the Sox and is a massive bust.

That's all fine and probably true, in a vacuum. But if you put Eaton in context, in a lineup that already includes Abreu, Eloy, Moncada, Grandal, Robert, Anderson etc, it matter less. He doesn't need to create runs. The Sox have plenty of guys that do that. Most teams have a power bat in RF. Most teams also don't get great production out of CF and SS. The Sox should get great production out of SS and CF. And 1B, and 3B, and LF, and C. That allows them to build their team differently. Maybe they don't have a big bat in RF. Well, they don't need one. They need a competent player. It'd be nice to have stars at every position, but it isn't that likely. If Eaton plays like he did in 2019, and is hitting 8th, or even 2nd, well, that would make the Sox lineup deep and dangerous. If Eaton replicates his 1.5 bWAR (is that the one that matters???) it is still .2 better than Nomar Mazara's career number. Is Eaton an All Star? No probably not. Is he a great player? No probably not. But he is a good player, that does some things well. He can help a team to win. And he is a major upgrade over what the team had. It would have been nice to put a star like Springer out there, but that didn't happen. So the team still got incrementally better. And every marginal improvement helps.

I’d be happy as long as he isn’t disruptive in the clubhouse.

No one jis asking you. They did win a WS with 5 non pitchers being above average. At least be consistent. You are b****ing about someone's opinion of Eaton trying to use bWAR as the end all but on another thread telling us Brad Hand is awful just because you say so.

Surprised this thread is still going. Bauer isnt coming here

And pegged Dane as a 2-4 starter for the next 6 years when we have 0 clue what he is.

Ozzie Guillen got Mark Kotsay over Jim Thome.

https://m.facebook.com/tlrarf/videos/1307147806118040/?refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&_rdr Here's a video of Hendriks at least being associated with ARF.

What a douche.

Mccann has been very streaky offensively. But the front office should have paid more attention to how calls a game with his staff. There was a noticeable difference between how grandal approached calling a game and how mccann did last year.

He's literally been one of the best relievers in baseball in *each* of the last 5 seasons.

Bauer 1 year 30 mil

Their owner realizes that he cant take his wealth to the next plane of existence.