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The reality is far worse than this. You need to go to the Original Comiskey Park, a pitchers park, and a season before most of us (I was conceived during this season) were even born, to reach this level of run scoring futility. 1968 was the last season the White Sox did not score 5 or more runs in 10 or more games after 37 games. There was no designated hitter at the time, and this was the final season before MLB lowered the pitchers mound and shrunk the strike zone to the current dimensions. https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/1968-schedule-scores.shtml The White Sox were so bad this season, A. The White Sox split home games between Comiskey Park and Milwaukee County Stadium, in an attempt to draw more fans. They drew 803,775 (9th out of 10 AL teams) over 81 home games, or less than 10,000 per game. B. GM Edwin Short went through three different managers this season, if only we could be so lucky. Eddie Stanky (34-45) Les Moss (12-24) Al Lopez (21-26) C. The team finished with a 67-95 record. D. It took until the 53rd game of the season for the Sox to score 5 + runs for the eighth time, a 5-2 win over the Yankees at OG Yankees Stadium, with Wilbur Wood getting his 4th win of the season in front of 5,340 fans (yikes). The 2022 White Sox will need to go another 16 games to tie, or 17 games with less than 5 runs each game to pass the offensive futility of the 1968 Chicago White Sox, a team handicapped by both the pitcher hitting and a higher pitchers mound.

Let's all keep following these dumbass WAR stats and all the sabermetric BS. Moncada sucks ass. WAR is not going to point out his half ass effort throw there that caused a 2 run HR thereafter.

7 runs? We are done for the week guys, take it easy!

That's the beauty of a baseball game...sometimes your gonna see something you've never seen before.

Or is WAR going to penalize Robert for not running out a dropped 3rd strike, with a speedy runner on 2B who could take 3rd with a throw to 1B or even perhaps cause a wild throw down the line? The Eye Test is magical. Give me that over the stupid computer any day of the week.

The crappy feeling is that I think all of us know deep down that firing him won’t do shit to turn this around

Always good to win no matter the opponent.

Except for almost tearing the arms off of my office chair, i was never worried.

Not doing shit when he should be and overmanaging when he shouldn't.

Tony should be fired for that inning

Not gonna lie guys, I'm kind of rooting for zero runs here just for the LOLs

When you're more boring than the PGA...

Just a little reminder for Jason....

Moncada is thinking about the next video he will be doing with bikini clad thick girls.

After watching what happened to the DBacks when Tony took over, it is mindboggling another organization would give him any say in personnel, let alone perhaps the final say.

I think this team is in a bad headspace. Chirping at media is a symptom. And they are in a bad approach to the game. Walks at the bottom of the league, yet don’t hit. Manager has crazy lineups. No accountability. Jerry Reinsdorf is enabling it all, and the dysfunction will continue with or without the hitting coach. There has to be competent leadership that know what to do, and that’s not going to get fixed apparently

Gordon says no because you might need a pinch runner late in the game ?

Terrible managing letting Sheets face a LHP. Tony is so clueless

Yeah, those beautiful sunny 85 degree days are brutal on your defense

He’s looked like total crap ever since ST started. Something is wrong physically or mentally.

Robert is the only one of the hyped "championship core" who is actually going to live up to the hype.

We're all bitching about how bad Robert looks and he's been on base 3 times

Robert and Anderson absolutely carrying the offense.

Luis and Tim are the only two offensive players worth a damn. Everyone else is abysmal right now.

That new extension ruined Yoan more than COVID ever did.

Moncada still being affected by long covid. He'll be good next season.

That the manager has lost this team.

No one actually believes that.

Second hit of season with bases loaded. Amazing.

Benetti talks to Gordon about his career as if it's Joe Morgan he's talking to.

This team went from a pretty likable bunch under Renteria to unwatchable crap "ready to turn it on at any time" under LaRussa.

This front office better shake things up soon or this season is gonna run away from them. This team is not prepared, not focused, and appears to lack motivation and drive while somehow displaying an immense amount of arrogance and relaxation regarding their struggles. There's no urgency or drive to be great for anyone outside of TA it feels like.

I'm tired of hearing Jason about this bullshit jingle. Who cares jabroni

Man, part of me wishes Ozzie was in the dugout tearing into these clowns. The other part of me hates that thought. But if shit is going to burn, at least make it entertaining.

Speaking of eye test, no war or defensive metric will capture that called Hit, which was obviously a home call as a Hit saving poor Tim another embarrassing error. I BELIEVE IN THE EYE TEST, everyone else can talk about WAR this and BPIP that or whatever other acronym they can come up with.

This makes me wonder whether the constantly changing lineups is directly affecting the hitting negatively. Other than TA, the players haven't really had consistent "roles" day in and day out, and have had different players hitting in front of and behind them in the order, which I would think leads to inconsistent approaches/gameplans day in and day out, which I could easily see as negatively affecting their hitting.

Reece McGuire the everyday backup catcher!

The hitters are well aware they're underperforming. They don't need someone fired to wake them up or to light a fire under them. They just need to put together more quality at bats and that's 100% on them. Now back to your regularly scheduled meatball thread.

Also, what is up with Engel? If the dude isn't going to be a great OF, he's not worth playing. He's been bad out there this year. The lack of hitting with RISP cost us the game yesterday, but Engel's botched play was the nail in the coffin.

Anyone considered expendable or tradable is likely at their lowest point in trade value, so you’d be selling low. Which defeats the purpose. Eloy would be tops on my list to trade but he’s a tarnished asset right now. You can’t sell low on guys and expect a quality return.

What changes coming from the manager/coaches aimed at the locker room are a fix though? I don’t disagree about the making it public part, just curious where TLR points the finger when he himself is responsible for the shitty incoherent lineups, and the overplaying of utility guys, and the likely cause of the lackadaisical uninspired play. Who does he hold accountable when he himself is the problem?

Because the Braves were struggling until July or August last season and won the WS, RH will be mentioning them in his pressers if the Sox continue to struggle. Who knew being under .500 in July is desired WS performance. But just because one fluke happened, doesn't mean another will soon follow. They better either turn it around real soon, or take some action, or there is going to be a lot of meaningless baseball played in Bridgeport this summer.

I think Katz has done a good job, but I understand where you're coming from. I'd can everyone else besides him, but of course that won't happen.

I’m ok with all Rick Hahn slander if deserved, which most of it is - but in press reports they all but said Joe Kelly in particular was a decision/request/order/whatever made by the manager. How that fits into the rest of the offseason I won’t guess beyond what I know.

Who are these valuable trade commodities? There are none in the lower league system and probably only Robert and Anderson would get much from the MLB team.

Who would we use to get this 'big, big trade'? The farm is empty and the young players like Sheets and Burger wouldn't get much in return, even more experienced players like Eloy or Moncada wouldn't get much in return. The only players who would get much in return are Anderson, Robert, Giolito and probably Vaughan, and if you are trading them away it is more than a retooling. The biggest 'trade' would be to trade in the manager and get one who is vaguely competent.

Jack, it's been four games. I know you were all-in on this wrist bruise is going to ruin Vaughn, but can we not have these absurd 4 game sample commentaries please. JFC

The problem with Harrison is we had a lineup that was too groundball prone, too little power and too right handed in the playoffs and there were plenty of complementary players, or at least enough. But they let players that were good complements leave because the Sox know REAL market value then overpay for the trash left behind. Harrison exacerbates all of our worst tendencies, which may have been okay if they added phenom at defense but he is not that either. Him sucking was incredibly predictable. Adam Frazier, Wendle, Escobar we’re all reasonable for 2b to acquire, all providing average to above average production vs RHp so far. Not all fix groundball prone or OBP, but they at least boosted us vs RHP