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Trading a guy right before his hamstring tears. Genius. Chris Getz operates on a different level.

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So well said. I was going to make a thread about Getz deserving kudos for this, be you summarized it really well. This organization couldn't draft or develop hitters AT ALL. The middle infield was always a hole aside from Tim Anderson. I love the players they've been drafting and developing. There's some guys with huge OBP potential. That's something this organization has sorely missed. Yeah, we definitely need guys with more power potential. But I like that the Sox have in the minors as far as infield prospects go.

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Sir the 63 win thread is on page 2. This is the 81 win thread.

He's really not though. It's completely obvious that baseball isn't his first language. He has no feel for the game, and for the little things that happen with in it. He brings nothing extra to the game, and really doesn't seem have the ability to make a partner better either. Granted he is better when someone like Beckham or Pleasac is in the booth with him (instead of Steve Stone, but It is really telling when another dude with no PBP MLB experience steps into the booth and sounds way better in Connor McKnight. I get it is hard to fall in a pile of s%*# and come out smelling like roses, so it isn't easy to make the Sox sound good right now, but that shouldn't be what his job is. His job is mostly to tell us what happening. The color guy should be the one adding to that story. The Sox main booth is currently one of the worst in baseball/

This was my takeaway also. I was still pissed about the game a couple hours later. I haven’t experienced that feeling in a few years, which has to be a good thing in terms of the progress of this team.

This is completely unbelievable. I don't know why you lie. You aren't married.

No, that’s asking a lot, if they get to 70 wins it would be damn good and if team continues to improve JR has to spend some money were they can compete for a WC next year.

Is "lesser" better than the nothing we are currently sitting on for the past two seasons? Because so far betting on Luis Robert has only benefited Luis Robert.

In both 2026 and beyond, the lineup needs significantly more thump. LF/RF/1B/DH all need an upgrade. The slg. needs to be higher across the board. Some of that is going to be have to solved with $$. I wouldn't spend a ton on pitching at the moment, feel like they have a big enough collection of arms right now, and with Bannister seemingly getting good results out of guys, I'd spend my resources on getting more power on this team.

I think the better question is that of the Padres 2024 top prospects, how did we get #5 (Thorpe), #7 (Zavala) and #8 (Iriarte) and not ask for the #6 shortstop (De Vries).

Improving by 19 wins is 'quite a bit' but only if that is repeated again next season when some of the young players will have to adjust to the league adjusting to them. Although 41 wins was an embarrasssingly low starting point, many on here were predicting another season as bad or marginally better. They were never going to go from a 41 win team to a .500 team in one season or even 2, to be honest they have improved more than I thought Getz was capable of achieving, although some of that will be just from not having Grifol as manager!

Most players aren't going to move the needle more than a couple of wins. You don't need to envy my definition. A player adding 2+ wins can be your definition of moving the needle, too. It's perfectly reasonable. A bunch of people said this team would lose more games than last year, so no, I don't agree with you that it would have been hard to not be better. The league didn't take players away from other teams and put them on the White Sox to make it fair. The league didn't gift runs to the Sox so that they could win more games this year. It's easy to criticize every single move a team makes, then when they work, pretend that it would have been hard for those moves to not work.

You missed the part of the Soxtalk manual where you have to double down and then cash in when he hits a small slump

Guess we are finding out that Nightengale very much misses Kenny and Rick and Getz gives him nothing. Also “other teams took lesser deals for their guys” isn’t a very good argument when he has two team options. It’s not the same as a full on rental.

Well, let’s hope this Aussie is as fun as the last one

I would not bring up either Schultz or Smith. I don’t think either is Rule 5 eligible and the Sox will need those spots for McDougal, Pallette, and all the 60 day IL guys.

Considering Bruce Levine probably doesn't even know what day of the week it is, I'd take anything he thinks or says with a large bag of salt. But Fox is right, they have to pick up his option now or look like bigger idiots than they already are.

Maybe Padres were scared of Crochet reliability but wow...they just traded DeVries for a guy who pitches an inning here and there White Sox the last two deadlines might be a little focused on guys who are ready to get to MLB soon. A function of how Getz has to prove himself to Jerry, Ishbia (all of MLB) that he is a real GM, and has Jerry's remaining lifetime to do so. Not saying he is making bad decisions but some of the decisions are veering win-soon, more so than win-later. I hope the franchise is kept in good health with decent decisions, in so doing.

In fairness - he is still striking out on like a 30 percent of his at bats which is pretty atrocious. When he hits it - he is destroying it - but that swing and miss is still real. Tools are legit strong - but he’s still got plenty of things he has to work on.

Houser hadn't given up a HR to a RH hitter this season, but just gave one up to Jo Adell six batters into his Rays debut.

Shift the goalposts wherever you like, I am just saying your context was inaccurate.

Retro parks that are built are here to stay, that doesn't mean new ones will be built. Marlins Park is very much not retro, it was supposed to usher in the postmodern era.

Probably not 3B due to arm strength…but we’ve got Rojas!

It probably depends on WHY he was getting injured. Was it not taking care of his body in terms of preparation, stretching, etc.? Or was it just because he is an injury prone guy and will always be that way? If he made actual changes this year that has led to the mostly healthy season, then that’s encouraging. I have no idea what the answer is, but he does seem to look better running to first and stealing bases. It could easily be my imagination, but it looks like he’s running less gingerly. Maybe that’s simply because he’s not nursing an injury.

Look, I absolutely hope I am wrong here, but I have worked in the trading industry for going on 30 years. Sunk Cost Fallacy and the Dead Cat Bounce are things for a reason. Could he have finally figured something out at 27? Sure. Is it more likely that his history going back almost a decade is more accurate than this 2/3 of a season than we have played? Odds are way higher this way.

I agree, and I know this topic is about 2026, but bigger picture, they need to add a lot more power to the lineup, that would be my biggest priority. But with the CBA where it’s at, I don’t see them making any significant investments this offseason

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Conversely, if they play at that .420 rate the rest of the way from today, on (42-70), they'd go 21-29 the rest of the way, or finish at 63-99. Their difficulty of schedule has dropped from 3rd hardest to 12th hardest, rest of the way.

I hear you, so much time missed because of injuries is a major concern. It seems to me that he is 100% dialed in with the effort and desire to win, something clicked, he is looked up to by all the youngsters on the team. If he gets a power surge with the bat it will change the dialogue. If they traded him Getz would get ridiculed for getting fleeced, Getz doesn't trade him and is a chump.

AL Central Division (morning of 8/1 - actual) Tm W L W-L% GB RS RA pythW-L% DET 64 46 .582 -- 532 451 .575 CLE 54 54 .500 9.0 424 453 .470 KCR 54 55 .495 9.5 393 411 .480 MIN 51 57 .472 12.0 451 484 .468 CHW 40 69 .367 23.5 416 480 .435

We need to add a 25 HR a year guy either in the corner or at 1B. If they are just going to let Beni play out his deal that sorta limits what we can do same with Tauchman. I think they are going to just punt 2026 spending. They will pickup Robert's option, maybe sign a bullpen arm or scrap heap starter and call it good.

Again the best part of this revival has been that is started as soon as the kids were allowed to play more, and some of the horrible, horrible players signed in the off season were yeeted into the abyss. The biggest problem for moving forward is that there isn't anything left currently performing at a decent level in the tank for the near future to move up. The only position player who could be considered ready for the majors is 3rd catcher Korey Lee. The next big guy is the other Montgomery who JUST got to AA and is probably a late 26, early 27 arrival if there are no speed bumps. Past that, the quality position players are 2/3/4 years away. Hagen Smith and Dutch Schultz have been moved up, but have been somewhere between mediocre and awful. Schultz hasn't pitched in a month now, and has still not hit as many as 90 innings in a single season. Hagen Smith hasn't been over 60 pitches in an outing since before he was hurt in May. He's still giving up 3 walks for every 4 IP too.

Now, I am Mr. Over-Optimistic on this board, and get grief for it now and then, but even I have to say that the idea Sox can win 81 games this year is rather silly. I think winning 70 games is realistically out of reach. I would say that making 63, my preseason prediction and goal, is slightly, slightly less likely than 50/ 50. If they can stay hot for a couple more weeks, than winning 63 becomes probable and maybe they can even reach 65 or so wins. Would winning 24 or more games over last year, an over 50% increase in wins, would that be enough for Lipman to consider that the White Sox have moved things forward "quite a bit"? Probably not.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/stats/affiliates?teamId=145&date=08/03/2025 https://www.milb.com/scores/all/all/whitesox?affiliateId=mlbcom-milb Murphy for AA. Several ranked prospects for opposition on the hill. Former Sox Jake Eder for AAA

Highest bullpen spending after Kimbrel acquisition in 2021…

I absolutely can. My response was to the poster. I'll remain cautiously optimistic (which is a refreshing change based on the last few weeks) but I'm not going to go overboard until Ishbia takes over and starts spending money like a major market team should.

Thinking about this more, but this offensive core is super fascinating to me. We more or less have a compete lineup from day one. Yes, it lacks some ceiling and impact, but that’s totally fine for a team entering year three of a rebuild with no long-term payroll commitments and hopefully a new owner influencing our free agent principles in the near future. When I look at the group, I feel really good about the infield and catcher. We have two guys that I feel can be major league SS’s in Colson & Meidroth. The former has the higher ceiling with elite bad speed that suggests he can be a true impact player one day if he can improve his swing decisions. Meidroth is a divisive player, one lacking loud physical tools but possessing incredible skill and intangibles. I can’t stress enough how unique it is to have a player with both elite bat to ball and plate discipline abilities. People seem to think I’m just some fanboy when it comes to Chase, but go look at Statcast data around the league and find a lot of guys like him. He’s a unicorn and one I think still has considerable room for growth even if power will never be a huge part of his game. Beyond those two, we have a plethora of infield options that can be part of next year’s group. Sosa is quickly becoming an interesting player. He’s flashing a plus hit tool and a swing that’s geared to maximize what is above average raw power for a 2B. The plate discipline is still a major red flag and I do worry his game could unravel at some point without some improvements there, but @Jake has called out that his chase rate has gotten better as the season has progressed. As much as we rip his defense, he seems like he can be average-ish at 2B. He looks like a legit 2 win player at the moment with the ceiling for more if he could actually draw some walks. On top of Sosa, you have two 2B/3B types in Mead & Antonacci who look like they could be big league regulars. I candidly don’t know a ton about the Mead, but his past prospect pedigree (former 55 FV type) is exciting and so is his Statcast profile this year which has flashed plus power, hit, and plate discipline abilities. His game hasn’t come together yet, but he hasn’t had an extended runway yet to make you feel that it can’t. He’s a guy the Sox must find a way to get at-bats to down the strength, even if those come at 1B, DH, etc. As for Antonacci, but I just saw a stat that said he’s the only minor league this year with an over 160 wRC+ and under a 15% K rate. There is likely some BABIP good luck mixed in there, but it’s clear as day he’s got a double plus or better hit tool with excellent plate discipline. As @Timmy U has pointed out, there are some similarities to Meidroth here, but Sam comes with a bigger frame and more physical projection along with being a LH hitter. He could be in the 3B/2B mix as soon as Opening Day next year IMO. Needless to say, there are almost too many options for these three spots, which is a good problem to have. I personally believe keeping Chase as the primary SS and Colson as the primary 3B is the way to go for the timing being (Colson should shift over to SS whenever Chase is on the bench). I believe Colson has the skills to be an elite defensive 3B with time. Chase will never be a stud defensive SS due to his lacking arm, but otherwise I think he has looked the part there and has exceeded my expectations. Most importantly, this alignment allows for 2B to be manned by Sosa, Mead, or Antonacci, which I think is the ideal position for all three of them. I’ll post more on the other positions later today, but I did want to highlight one other point when it comes to the infield. I love our strategy to add high ceiling prep infielders in the past two years in Bonemer & Carlson. Most of the guys mentioned above outside of Colson have capped ceilings but look like they can be average to slightly above average Major leaguers. At some point will we need to add some star power and impact, and it’s this wave of kids along with possibly our 2026 1st rounder (if they go the SS route) that could provide it down the road once our theoretical financial flexibility begins running dry as kids enter arbitration. It’s good long range planing and I think Getz deserves some kudos for his org building in this area.

I've said it before and I will say it again, The White Sox Are Coming, Tra La, Tra La!!!!

Sox should go and grab Wayne Randazzo from the Angels

Barons win again. Record is 61-40, they seem hungry for a repeat title. Gowens 7IP 1ER (solo shot), 3H 6K 2BB. Braden 1-4 with a BB and steal, Antonacci 0-3 with a BB, Bergolla 2-3 with 2 BB. WS split their DH. Ziehl had a double come around to score on an error in the first, then mostly cruised until the 5th. Left with runners on after a walk and double, and the pen let both score. Only 4 baserunners total, but 3 came around. 4.1IP, 3 R (2 earned), 3H, 1BB, 4K. Zavala was 2-6 with a double and 2 walks on the day.

i don't think the pope would approve of this thread.

Colson has looked amazing. Absolutely love to see it. Was not at all expecting him to look this comfortable against big league pitching. Sox deserve alot of credit for fixing him with their little AZ vacation earlier this season.

Contrary to any of my previous opinions, torpedo bats are actually good for baseball 😉

I know he's got some struggles coming, and I'm not saying that Colson is going to be as good as the people I'm about to mention, I'm just making a statement about how much a big bat can make a different. But Colson, the way he's been swinging the bat and driving in runs with power since the all-star game, that must be what it's like to have a Judge or Ontani on your team all year long. Colson's big bat has made this Sox team so much better in these two weeks. It really shows, again like Judge or Ontani, how just one huge bat in the lineup can completely change a team.