Bob Sacamano Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) Another possible option at closer.. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/02/white-sox-sign-corey-knebel-dominic-leone.html Edited February 13 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Seems like the Sox decided to wait around and see whose prices dropped late. The MiLB deals give them some more options and time to decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hogan873 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Did Knebel have surgery after the 2022 season? I couldn't find anything other than he had a torn shoulder capsule. He seemed to have a nice career beforehand. Leone looks like another guy who could be a decent bullpen option, but the Sox are really loaded up on BP arms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 9 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Did Knebel have surgery after the 2022 season? I couldn't find anything other than he had a torn shoulder capsule. He seemed to have a nice career beforehand. Leone looks like another guy who could be a decent bullpen option, but the Sox are really loaded up on BP arms. 72 career saves including a season where he had 39. At least we have a few guys with closing experience in camp. Hopefully a decent bullpen can be pieced together. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 This isn't a bad signing. Pitchers usually come back from capsule surgeries, and he's not rushed now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Really like Knebel signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Another value building / flipping candidate. I like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Well done, Getz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Leone was with the Giants recently, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I initially read this wrong and thought the Sox had signed former Cy Young winner Corey Kluber, which seemed like a very White Sox thing to do, getting their man 7-10 years too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Dam8610 said: I initially read this wrong and thought the Sox had signed former Cy Young winner Corey Kluber, which seemed like a very White Sox thing to do, getting their man 7-10 years too late. Kluber also just recently announced his retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Not bad.......2 proven MLB guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said: This isn't a bad signing. Pitchers usually come back from capsule surgeries, and he's not rushed now. Yes but having a high leverage reliever whose name means choke in English is always concerning. 😁 Another one of my all time favorites is Chuck knoblach which means garlic and he stunk like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Bullpens are always a crapshoot. Hopefully the Sox catch some lightning in a bottle that they can flip at the deadline. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, ptatc said: Yes but having a high leverage reliever whose name means choke in English is always concerning. 😁 Another one of my all time favorites is Chuck knoblach which means garlic and he stunk like it. the last couple of years, no translation necessary, Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I rag on the bad ones, so I should applaud the good ones. These are good ones. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 This is the bullpen construction technique we wished Rick Hahn employed. I'm cautiously optimistic with how Getz has approached this off-season. Only $40M on the books for 2025, it will be interesting to see how he constructs that team with a bit of money to toss around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Times sure are changing. 2 or 3 years ago, these two signings would have cost the Sox $35,000,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said: This is the bullpen construction technique we wished Rick Hahn employed. I'm cautiously optimistic with how Getz has approached this off-season. Only $40M on the books for 2025, it will be interesting to see how he constructs that team with a bit of money to toss around. If he's allowed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: If he's allowed Well we know what Hahn would do with payroll flexibility: invest heavily in the bullpen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 27 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: If he's allowed It will be interesting if nothing else. I would hope he's allowed a payroll of at least $100M, would Jerry stoop so far as to only allow a bottom 5-8 payroll in the league? I've been told he's claiming internally that the Sox have lost $100-$150M in the past 2 years, which seems incredibly hard to believe, but it does scare me that he's set on completely tanking until after the stadium is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, JoeCredeYes said: It will be interesting if nothing else. I would hope he's allowed a payroll of at least $100M, would Jerry stoop so far as to only allow a bottom 5-8 payroll in the league? I've been told he's claiming internally that the Sox have lost $100-$150M in the past 2 years, which seems incredibly hard to believe, but it does scare me that he's set on completely tanking until after the stadium is done. Let him open his books and prove it to an independent economist. Until then I don't believe a word of it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, JoeCredeYes said: I would hope he's allowed a payroll of at least $100M, would Jerry stoop so far as to only allow a bottom 5-8 payroll in the league? I think the case has always been that Reinsdorf doesn't have a problem spending when they look competitive. Under Hahn, they've just made stupid spending decisions. Getz seems a bit more measured than Hahn. I don't doubt that once they trade Cease, Robert, Soroka, maybe Kopech, Eloy, Crochet, and they get their top 5-10 prospects plugged on the big club, they'll spend again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 8 hours ago, JoeCredeYes said: It will be interesting if nothing else. I would hope he's allowed a payroll of at least $100M, would Jerry stoop so far as to only allow a bottom 5-8 payroll in the league? I've been told he's claiming internally that the Sox have lost $100-$150M in the past 2 years, which seems incredibly hard to believe, but it does scare me that he's set on completely tanking until after the stadium is done. Jerry doesn't count the enormous income not included in "MLB Income" such as his Sox portion of CSN Chicago, MLB.com revenue, parking, upcoming sportsbook, bar lounge across the street and other outside stadium income, significant federal tax write-offs and capital gain deferrals, city and state tax subsidies, government ticket purchase subsidies for under 1.9M attendance, and the millions in "upkeep" provided by the ISFA. Jerry has spent on three occasions as owner the past 36 years (records I can find online from a single source): (2 Seasons 2022-2023) An effort to prove his guy, Tony La Russa, was the best manager and HOF person on Earth. (4 Seasons 1994-1997) Post 1993 Division Title + Albert Belle Hissy Fit reaction to owners rejecting his hardline stance. (8 Seasons 2006-2013) Post World Series and significant attendance bump. For the other 22 seasons there are online records, they have been mid to bottom tier payrolls, far below teams in similar markets. Even after the new stadium opened, he didn't bump payroll, and fielded bottom payrolls leading up to the new stadium, so that's likely what Sox fans have to look forward to the rest of the decade. Payroll information since 1988. Top 9 quadrants used pre-expansion to 30 teams in 1998. Source 1988-2023 Decade Averages: 1988-1989 $6.8M (26) Bottom MLB payroll both seasons 1990s $32.5M (14) 2000s $77.4M (13) 2010s $104.6M (16) 2020-2023 $134.4M (13) (11) Top Third Payroll Seasons 2022 $190.8M (7) 2013 $124.1M (9) 2011 $127.8M (5) 2010 $108.3M (7) 2008 $121.2M (5) 2007 $108.7M (5) 2006 $102.8M (4) 1997 $54.4M (3) 1996 $41.9M (5) 1995 $39.6M (5) 1994 $38.4M (8) (16) Middle Third Payroll Seasons 2023 $174.9M (12) 2021 $127.1M (15) 2020 $44.8M (17) 37% spent 2017 $109.6M (20) 2016 $116.0M (16) 2015 $110.7M (18) 2014 $91.2M (20) 2012 $97.0M (11) 2009 $96.1M (12) 2005 $75.2M (13) 2004 $65.2M (15) 2002 $57.1M (18) 2001 $65.6M (14) 1998 $36.8M (18) 1993 $34.6M (13) 1992 $28.4M (17) (9) Bottom Third Payroll Seasons 2019 $89.4M (26) 2018 $72.2M (29) 2003 $51.0M (22) 2000 $31.2M (26) 1999 $24.6M (24) 1991 $16.8M (23) 1990 $9.5M (26) 1989 $7.6M (26) 1988 $5.9M (26) Edited February 14 by South Side Hit Men 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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