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2 hours ago, YASNY said:

southside2k5 can share it with you, as he did in the Hendriks thread a day or two ago at about 1 in the afternoon.

 

Give us the gist - I'm too lazy to look it up

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2 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

Tanaka may be what we need, but he ain't happenin'. Rumors are that he's considering going back to Japan on a 4-year deal. If he's staying here, it's to re-sign with the Yankees. 

He's 32. He doesn't want a 1-year deal from a new club that he doesn't know if he's ultimately looking to go back to Japan eventually.

I know man and I'm actually pumped about it because I'm a huge Rakuten fan and I just can't believe he would end up anywhere other than Rakuten and good LORD do they need him right now. Tanaka/Norimoto/Kishi/Wakui/Shiomi/Takinaka with Ishibashi/Yuge on the outside-looking-in is all of a sudden a LEGIT rotation, especially considering that Hayakawa could be ready sooner or later and could jump in when Shiomi gets hurt or Wakui/Takinaka turn back into pumpkins.

But my point is that what the Sox need is a reliable veteran #3 on a market-rate 1 year deal, whether that's Tanaka or not.

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2 hours ago, YASNY said:

Excuse me, folks,  But I claim to be the author of the dumbest post in Soxtalk history.  Until you offer a post that gets ripped in Sports Illustrated .... I rest my case.

Nice to see you around these parts, sir!

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17 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said:

My thing is, based on everything I've read, Vaughn is ready to "take his lumps" to make the transition, and I think the best time to have an important player go through that is when the offense is already amazing and doesn't need to put pressure on him to produce. Also, with Yermin/Collins are almost aging out of being prospects without ever being given a shot -- they are the perfect dup to sink or swim as the 30-60 day service time bridge they need to find for Vaughn anyway. 

And then again with such an obvious need to spend the money on in SP, idk, it just seems really obvious that splurging on a veteran rental DH is almost literally the last thing the roster needs.

I agree.  Would love to see Yermin get the DH 3rd Catcher role while we wait for Vaughn to make his debut.  Maybe we find Yermin has some value since the NL will have some clubs in need shortly.

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48 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said:

My thing is, based on everything I've read, Vaughn is ready to "take his lumps" to make the transition, and I think the best time to have an important player go through that is when the offense is already amazing and doesn't need to put pressure on him to produce. Also, with Yermin/Collins are almost aging out of being prospects without ever being given a shot -- they are the perfect dup to sink or swim as the 30-60 day service time bridge they need to find for Vaughn anyway. 

And then again with such an obvious need to spend the money on in SP, idk, it just seems really obvious that splurging on a veteran rental DH is almost literally the last thing the roster needs.

I understand, it's just I think you are getting a near Trout like bat in Cruz  for the same money as someone like Tanaka , Ordorizzi, Paxton guys you really have to cross your fingers on. Cruz is due for regression one of these years but after being Trout like in 2020 how much drop off can we really expect ? That lineup and BP would cover up a lot of pitching regression if Keuchel and Lynn aren't up to their usual snuff.  You could pick up pitching at the TDL but a bat like Cruz isn't readily available in most circumstances.

Cruz seems like he almost single handedly got the Twins into the playoffs.

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and yet, no one here knows how good of a hitter we have in Yermin.  If Sox had just given him a chance in 19-20, then we could evaluate the need for Cruz

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20 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I understand, it's just I think you are getting a near Trout like bat in Cruz  for the same money as someone like Tanaka , Ordorizzi, Paxton guys you really have to cross your fingers on. Cruz is due for regression one of these years but after being Trout like in 2020 how much drop off can we really expect ? That lineup and BP would cover up a lot of pitching regression if Keuchel and Lynn aren't up to their usual snuff.  You could pick up pitching at the TDL but a bat like Cruz isn't readily available in most circumstances.

Cruz seems like he almost single handedly got the Twins into the playoffs.

BBRef has him at a projected .883 OPS which would be better production from DH than anyone else we could get (Ozuna projection at .817, Brantley at .814), and would be the best production we've had at DH since Thome.

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27 minutes ago, longshot7 said:

Funny that Clemens was accurate though. So many typing errors in that article tho, reads like QAnon.

Yeah something was up with that page. It got to a point where it was unreadable. 

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14 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

Yeah something was up with that page. It got to a point where it was unreadable. 

That was from 15 years ago, probably 5 content management systems and multiple servers, and SI likely cares very little about making sure the markup kept working

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4 hours ago, YASNY said:

Excuse me, folks,  But I claim to be the author of the dumbest post in Soxtalk history.  Until you offer a post that gets ripped in Sports Illustrated .... I rest my case.

Holy shit!

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22 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Nelson Cruz to the Sox confirmed.

If it's from Hector Gomez, then it's Nelson Cruz anywhere but the Sox, confirmed.

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If you noticed, Hector is reporting on international FA signings today. Have a strong feeling the news he mentioned will be Vera signing.

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17 minutes ago, fathom said:

If you noticed, Hector is reporting on international FA signings today. Have a strong feeling the news he mentioned will be Vera signing.

Him hyping up a signing that’s been known for six months is beyond lame, but definitely feels like that’s how this will shake out.

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28 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

The article is on the previous page. 

I've seen it. I'm a loooong time vet on this board. ;)

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58 minutes ago, fathom said:

If you noticed, Hector is reporting on international FA signings today. Have a strong feeling the news he mentioned will be Vera signing.

He won't see the wrath coming. 

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29 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

He won't see the wrath coming. 

He felt a lot of it prior offseasons. I'd like to think he isn't that dumb, but in the same token, most casual Sox fans do not know who Veras is or even remember the articles last February. Still a big deal to get one of the top arms in the period, but we're all die hards, and thanks to Jimmy, we all know it's been a done deal since last year.

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7 hours ago, Tony said:

We need to teach these young pups the history of Soxtalk...

Sox N Roll...

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Just now, joesaiditstrue said:

well either that dude has no idea what context means, or Cruz is coming here

Or signing with a team outside AL Central 

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