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The amount of people who seem to be actively cheering for the team to leave is really weird.

I wish him nothing but luck. The last year and a half was rough for on and off the field reasons, but he had a hell of a run before that and was one of the reasons I watched them. Hopefully he can get back on track

I have a big soft spot for TA. His background reminds me of a lot of kids in my hometown who come from disastrous home lives and bring that chaos into adulthood. The guy obviously has some demons and hangers on who want to milk him, and he feels bad cutting those poisonous people off. The ability to live your life in a mode where you aren't registering everything as a threat to your well-being is a thing a lot of people never learn. His reactions to thing on social media remind me of a lot of high school kids I see on a regular basis. I feel for the guy. Most of it is through no fault of his own, though some of it is.

miami? he should have a lot more 'opportunities' there than in chi

Watch out Miami women! Best of luck to TA.

Turns out, TA was in a different market than Andrew Benintendi.

So let me get this straight, if the state builds JR a new park, he’ll be able to afford Ohtani?

Noob here. Will be registering. Certified Boomer. First live Sox game in 1959. Cub Scouts. I'll just say, Harry S. Truman was POTUS on the day I was born. St. Ann's Hospital. Austin neighborhood. Ann's long gone. Anyway, for the first time in my life, I'm worse-than-neutral about the WSox. This season, anyway. I'm not really paying much attention. Headline surfing only. I noticed that the MVP of the couch league, Mike Moustakas inked to a AAA deal. W00t! I've seen loveseats with more range than him! Will be only side watching this team. Unless they can pull off something with a remote chance of winning more than 70 games in 2024. Thanks for letting me vent.

The sour ending to TA's run will fade over time, but I'll always remember the Field of Dreams walk-off. I had gone on leave for several months from my job to care for my dad at the time. He was paralyzed with ALS (Lou Gehrig's). He was still the same person mentally, just trapped in his body. Watching TV had become his main entertainment, so I can't overemphasize how much events like that meant to him. Everything about that game was perfect. I grew up in Iowa, close enough to that field to have taken a field trip there as a kid. The entire sky turned this incredible pink color that night, which I'd never seen it do before or since. It was surreal to see our Sox playing under the same sky we saw out the window of my parents' place. Even if they'd only blown the lead in the top of the 9th, I would've been very grateful for the memory. But to walk it off like that made it beyond special to us. Thanks TA.

year:2061 Loacation: who knows seat: at your home on a computer Owner: Little Jerry Reinsdorf, grandson of the master grifter, needs a new $10 billion stadium, needing to knock down some Chicago landmark in order to compete with the Kansas City Royals. The site at the 78 just doesn't do it for us. you: give him what he wants, the Sox almost made the playoffs a decade or so ago.

avier Mogollon, 2B, White Sox Mogollon was arguably the biggest pop-up prospect in the White Sox’s system in 2023. The Venezuelan infielder was a low-dollar signing in the 2023 international class and put forth an outstanding debut season in the DSL that included a .999 OPS and 10 home runs. Mogollon is a twitchy athlete with the potential for 50s and 55s all across his scouting card and a plus arm that could handle stints at shortstop. He’s also already shown the knack for pulling balls hard and in the air. Badler https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/22-dsl-prospects-who-could-make-noise-stateside-in-2024/

You realize being a fan is voluntary, right?

2024 attendance:

I don't think he'll get any boos.

Not necessarily. I'm sure they about the surgery and if he is hoping to be ready for opening day, he must be pretty far along in his rehab so they have a good idea about his recovery. You really do hate everything about this team, don't you.

TA isn't really a bounceback candidate tho. His underlying batting metrics are telling. 61% ground balls. 32% pull percentage. His statcast data is brutal, like barely even a MLB player bad. His sprint speed IS BELOW AVERAGE. He's a shell of the guy that he was at 25, or even 27. For whatever reason, he stinks now.

Hopefully the kid figures out his stuff and gets back to what was a great start to a career.

When you go to a game at the new park you will be able to spot my condo's balcony, it will be the one with a 1959 American League Champion Flag. ( impulse buy at a Sox garage sale years ago )

I think you mean Jerry Reinsdorf. As long as he runs the team, nothing changes. Same crappy minor leagues. Same crappy attitude about paying superstars. It would be a great thing with a new owner. I hope the governor doesn't give Jerry a single cent. It's time for the fans and state government to choke this fucker out.

I think he needs to go through the humble loop. "I'm just happy for the opportunity, just want to play hard and help my team, I'll miss the fans in Chicago, etc" and stay out of the limelight. He won't receive a Liam welcome in his first game back as a visitor, but it shouldn't be filled with too many boos.

This is Lip's schtick though. Loving to be miserable and loving to whine about the White Sox without adding any value to discussions.

Hmm, yes, on second thought, I'm fine with the new uniforms ?

The downside? Leading the league in errors again? Another couple of bench clearing brawls over nothing? I'm not skilled enough to know if TA is done or not, but he's certainly a change of scenery candidate. They don't need every single player on the roster to be "flippable". I'm guessing Cease, Soroka, Brebbia and Knebel will get attention. I don't even think TA's a shortstop anymore. Which means he's Elvis Andrus. In a good year. I'm fine with DeJong and Lopez.

I both can't believe it and I also can - this is such a crappy, 1980s way to try to get your way. "Pay me money or I take my present and leave" darn well should provoke a "Here's a map" response. If you want a ton of public money, and I'm a public official, you better darn well be selling me on the positives not threatening me with the negatives. Give me estimates that say putting $2 billion into this site will produce $4 billion in new tax revenue. Give me something that says how many high paying jobs it will create, show me how you're going to raise wages for everyone in the area. I really do hope government has learned to spit on threats like this and reward people who work with them constructively.

I don't want TA at any price. He needs a clean slate and to get away from the off field distractions in Chicago. The Marlins can try and rehab his value but TA is a guy that has always relied on quick twitch ability rather than skill. At 30, he's going to have a hard time keeping that quick top hand and the speed (and health) needed to maintain the high BABIP he had in his prime. There's a decent chance he's just done as a MLB player imo. I don't think he has the adjustments needed if his athletic ability has declined as much as it looked last year.

It was time to move on from him, but I wish him the best of luck. He worked so hard to make himself a better hitter and he was so fun to watch play, then it all fell apart unfortunately for him and the White Sox.

I'm with this guy. He became a continued embarrassment to the White Sox, and by extention, embarrassment to the Sox fan base. There were just so many incidents that I can no longer root for him; I can't.

Hope Burger and Tim kick ass and win some playoff series.

I don’t think I’ll ever find myself rooting for him.

OK, Sox park has been panned since it opened. Between the angle of the upper deck, it's extraordinary plainness, lack of a skyline view, distance from downtown, and (my personal favorite) the color of the seats, Sox fans hated this place since day 1. It consistently is rated as one one the bottom tier parks in baseball. Granted the remodel fixed some of the problems, but this park has always been looked down on pretty universally. In fact the vocal part of the Sox base has been bemoaning that we didn't do something Camden like until, quite literally, they unveiled a plan to do something Camden like. Weird, right? I definitely won't argue that the Bears managed to go under even Comiskey II's low standards, because they absolutely did, but that doesn't take away from how the base has viewed Sox Park since 1990.

I hate this thread. Great job, all.

Technically Reinsdorf hasn’t said he’d move the team out, he told Crain’s that the next owner, after Reinsdorf dies, would be moving the team out if there isn’t a new stadium.

I saw it as a good thing, where they can put him on the 60-day IL, evaluate him in Charlotte on a rehab assignment, and stow him jut long enough on the MLB roster to keep him. Every single news item doesn't need to be the white sox messing up at every single level spectacularly.

Ticket sales across baseball will go up on rainy days

If the thing got built like the pictures, which is probably a long shot, what types of high paying jobs would there be? Apartments have door personnel and maintenance people. White Sox game day doesn't pay much and its only transferred from Bridgeport. Restaurants and bars aren't high paying. It's all BS.

Yeah, it is totally believable and not at all surprising that he's taking this tactic, but no less insulting at the same time. As if we don't all know how he operates or that he's tried this move before. It's gross, and proves once again how out of touch he is.

I agree. That was a great experience to be part of. Probably the best non-post season experience for me. The fog bowl was a good one too as I was near the goal post when butler hit it but we couldn't see if it went in.

I think the mayor supports it just to get anything out of the 78 area. It's just a drag on the city right now. The development company needs an anchor for the area to thrive. The ballpark would do that.

This guy has contributed to BP for 20 years. He kind of debunks a lot of what JR is saying. https://www.fieldofschemes.com/

For me it's tough. He went from a favorite to a guy I wanted off the team. Ultimately, I can say I'm glad he found a job, and I'm glad it wasn't with the Sox. I doubt there was interest from the Sox to sign him nor from TA to sign here.

I hope he gets his act together. It already cost him $8 million. I am worried his legs are not going to let him get back to what he was.

Go get em, TA.

Look at how quickly the Rockies were at least competitive…and the Rays with all the disadvantages in the world nevertheless eventually succeeding. Expansion is usually the better choice. JR ruins things wherever he can meddle. That doesn’t change with geography.

Bulletproof Ball Park Folds of Fat Field

BS. JR is also implying that his family's sale of the team will be to someone who wants them to move. Look at what teams have to go through to move. The White Sox are not even close. The league isn't going to let them move unless there is no option. I'm sure he would more than settle for some upgrades to GRF and his sweetheart deal extending. That's the other thing that is freaking him out. A lot of people, including one former Board member of the IFSA thinks his deal is way too good. And why do they think this way? Because they are right.

I am very interested in Dominic Fletcher and Soroka this spring.

GRF is in great shape down to the blades of grass that Bossard manicures. No reason to move to a stadium without parking. There will be other alternatives in the future that will keep the White Sox in Chicago at a new stadium when that becomes necessary. The hype surrounding a simple rendering from a developer, the one Billion dollar ask, and the asinine talk on sports radio is a joke. Most of them have no idea what they are talking about. See you on Opening day at the park. I'm out on this thread.

No sh!t Sherlock. I didn’t create the f’d up system we are living in. I do know however that the 78 with a MLB stadium and a new ownership group are way more beneficial to the City of Chicago than all of the freeloading Amazon centers.

Kauffman Stadium