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This manager sets the tone and it sucks. I saw so much sloppiness from this team. They do little things wrong and it has been put up with far too long under this regime. Kopech flubs a ball covering first (vs dp)…leads to a run. Robert doesn’t tag on a ball he should have been…should have been on 3rd with 0 or 1 outs vs stuck on 2nd…which should lead to a run. They had lefty on mound and runners on - great situation to put in Vaughn as a pinch hitter (vs letting a .200 batter hit). Nope let the .200 batter hit. Over course of the season constantly tolerating shit out of the little things and putting your squad on bad situations compounds. Honest to god - he is as bad of a mgr as I have seen. Tham just watch the Angels run their shifts - dynamic depending on count and situation vs Sox vanilla shifts. Straight up incompetence. Players are part of it but mgr and willingness to not hold players accountable (honestly the one thing I thought he would do) is just beyond pathetic. FU White Sox for screwing up such a good team. This includes having a hitting coach who is doing the exact opposite of every team in baseball regarding launch angle.

This season is so frustrating because everything looked so bright coming out of 2020. Its like this teams demise started once Tony LaRussa was hired. 😕

Montgomery's streak is up to 38 now. RBI single in the 8th to extend it.

Why haven't you made any moves to improve the current team? Was it this medical staff that advised you not to offer Carlos Rodon the QO? Why do you continue to misevaluate the free agent market? Why didn't you add an impact LHH? Why didn't you upgrade RF? Why didn't you upgrade the starting rotation? Why didn't you upgrade the defense? Why didn't you add more team depth? Why did you put so much money in the bullpen?

Someone explain to me why any credence was put into the screenshotted post from Ray Ray. They didn't even screenshot his instagram and people fucking ran with it without even looking at his page.

Fire Tony!!!!

Lololol Tony not looking at or caring about results explains a lot

You can see that the Sox organization is an absolute joke with player development Cesar Prieto and Oscar Colas were signed at 23 years old. Both decided to forfeit almost all of their contract to come stateside right away. Both being older were almost assuredly under the impression that if they were able to perform well that they would be on a faster track to the majors then other prospects. Both Prieto and Colas were raking at A+ for the first month. At that time the Baltimore Orioles promoted Prieto to AA. The Sox chose to keep Colas down, why, no reason why. A+ was solely intended to let both players shake off the rust and get used to American baseball and a routine. Its not been a month past when Prieto was promoted to AA. Colas is still at A+ and continuing to rake. Then comes Colson Montgomery who raked at A ball to a similar tune that Colas was doing at A+. Colson gets promoted to A+ while Colas is still forced to stay at A+. Then we have the Lenyn Sosa situation as he gets promoted from AA to the bigs while Colas is still stuck at A+ The Sox fucked up if this is the root cause of a perceived rift. Nothing surprising bc the guys running the organization at every position are straight trash. Colas should have been promoted a month ago plain and simple.

Gonna be honest, our boy Mike is missing a lot on that list of bad decisions

I think my biggest problem/frustration is that if even Ricky Renteria were still here, we'd be seeing better out of Eloy, Yoan, and Robert (when healthy). He couldn't manage a bullpen, but the team was enjoyable and played hard for Ricky.

Especially the Bulls. Look at all the shit the Bulls fans sat through while lining JRs pockets with cash. If he’s afraid of the tax, they aren’t going to win. I hope the people wHo give him all their money realize it and stop going to games, Get back to pre Jordan where they are lucky to draw 6k.

Colas in CF for Winston Salem tonight!!

There is no overlap between the Bulls and White Sox. None. I don't know how people think there is, but no.

No, that's the entire point. The NBA salary structures are a Byzantine maze that necessitate teams hiring capologists to help facilitate transactions. The Sox also have the seventh highest payroll in baseball, so they're spending money, they're just spending it real fucking poorly. A better question would be "why did you spend money on Leury and Harrison when you could have just signed Escobar and played Mendick on the MLB roster from the start?" Right now on RealGM you have Bulls fans upset that Dallas Keuchel's DFA might hurt the Bulls free agency dreams but they don't correlate.

I was just at a restaurant and the hostess called Juan O. for four. I heard Yoan 0-4. The 12 step program to forget Sox baseball isn't complete.

Oscar Colas' instagram is back to normal and, once again, the initial post was incorrect regarding him deleting everything White Sox.

Jake Lamb was an all star for a season. He also was a mediocre player for the White Sox. A.J. Pollack once won a gold glove. He misplayed a ball at the wall against the Tigers in game one earlier this season and overran a catchable ball near the fence during a recent game against the Angels. The point is that many players have a single great season but fail to produce stellar performances over a career. Anyone is capable of having a big or outlier year. Few have the careers of Frank Thomas, Nellie Fox, or Luis Aparicio. In 2019 and 2020 I genuinely believed that the White Sox roster was packed with perennial All Star quality players --- Anderson, Abreu, Eloy, Grandal, Yoan, Luis, and Nicky Two Strikes. Now I believe that I was mistaken, except for Anderson and maybe Jose. Eloy, Yoan, and Luis are above average but unreliable performers on the field. Each may experience one, perhaps two great seasons, but not sustain excellence over the course of a lenghty career. Won't happen. Too many soft tissue injuries, poor command of the strike zone, lapses of concentration and effort in the field. The fear is that if Eloy, Yoan, or Luis is/are traded then soon thereafter the player will suddenly fulfill the great expectations we have had for him. But, that is unlikely to happen for any of those players. More likely, each will have a career liken to Avi Garcia or Jorge Soler rather than Aaron Judge or Mike Trout. Wishing and hoping doesn't make it happen. As to Nicky Two Strikes, he is injury prone and unreliable but in a trade with the Cubs the White Sox got a zero return, anyway. As to Gandal, he is mediocre at best behind the plate and only a streak hitter approaching old age in the life expectancy of a major league player. Besides, Grandal is injury prone, too. Lynn, Gio, Cease, are Kopech are single A quality players compared, for example, to Verlander in today's game. They have no resemblance whatsoever to Jemkins, Gibson, Spahn, Ford, and Robin Roberts who posted wonderful careers without extensive injury and had the capacity to pitch beyond the sixth inning. The White Sox are an average team without the roster that would justify the great expectations we had prior to this disappointing season.

This is the most White Sox Bulls off-season you can imagine so far. Although, what is the equivalent of a non-elite reliever in the NBA? They need to sign more of those.

I remember becoming a White Sox fan without ever seeing them play on tv because Jimmy & Harry were so fun on the radio side.

I remember TLR having Rickey Henderson, Dave Henderson, Jose Canseco, Mark Maguire, Dennis Eckersley, Carney Landlord and still getting swept in the WS by Cincinnati.

I remember the day TLR managed the STL in a world series in which Mark Maguire was being saved for late inning pinch hittier as he was injured He brought him in with a runner in 2nd and first base open.

What in the world does any of this have to do with how garbage of a manager Tony is in 2022?

Meet the new boss….same as the old boss

Opposite field single for Sosa in his first AAA AB.

I feel like this package has become our Clint Frazier / Miguel Andujar.

It wasn't a great season or anything, but it felt like the team was finally transitioning out of the rebuild and into a potential contender. There was some positive momentum.

The people here and mostly elsewhere defending Colas because it is hard being a minor leaguer are mouth breathers. Accusing your employer of treating you live a slave is ridiculous. I hope the Sox trade him the first second an offer even close to fair comes along.

This is ridiculous. Colas wasn’t great in May and missed a bunch of time. He should be in AA but the White Sox aren’t doing anything nefarious here. If he were ready to play in the big leagues by midseason 2023, that’d be a huge benefit for the organization and they know it

Wait, TMZ cares about semantics and phrasing?

One is already on the Cubs.

So TLR doesn't look at results because it's too easy that way? Seriously ? Who even says something like that? However at least that explains why Garcia with a .193 BA and a .480 OPS is a consistent starter and there is not a chance in h*** this team makes the playoffs this season. Thanks TLR.

I’m old enough to remember when people thought the Cubs winning a World Series and making the playoffs for half of a decade would be poor results for the Sox rebuild.

Hendriks has to actually be able to pitch before anyone is taking him on, and his contract is actually a major ding on his value as his luxury tax number is way above his salary. Giolito may turn this around but he’s legitimately been bad this year. People don’t give up big ticket value at the deadline for players who are struggling. Even if you are able to move those guys, you will not be getting top level big league ready players for them.

Nobody wants any of those guys other than Abreu and Graveman. Players having bad seasons have minimal value. Go look at Grandal, Moncada and Giolito's baseball savant page. There is nothing that suggests they're about to turn it around in-season.

Thought it was fake, but here is the video…🤦‍♂️ They asked him why he wasn’t pinch hit for in the 6th and Tony answers on why he hit in the 9th, not even listening to the question….moron

That is the thing - they will do 2 or 3 things wrong every game and they aren’t just the usual errors. Those happen - the things I see, whether mgr not making the smart call or players not doing the little fundamental things to prevent someone from advancing or them advancing when they need to…it’s bad and it makes a difference and increases the margin to win and put streaks together.

Always wants to be "cool" and invariably comes off as the opposite somehow.

well, whatever it is, I'm sure shane riorden will get to the bottom of it, let everyone know that he knows the issue and that it's bad, but not actually let anyone know what it was.

Old enough to remember tex not getting the post bit and arguing with someone else 8 posts into the thread lol

I have been to 2 games with my 2 year old. Brought in a diaper bag and no one mentioned it. They just briefly looked inside the bag.

The problem is he can't recognize when a Starter is gassed. First evidence of this was Giolito in IIRC May of last year was gassed to start the 7th after a great six innings. Fans saw it, Lucas looked like it, everyone but Tony recognized. After the game Lucas told reporters he was gassed but gave it his all. When the reporters circled back to Tony, Tony stated paraphrasing "He still had something left, wanted to stay in.". The reporters repeated Lucas' comments and Tony said, "Oh, he said that. I didn't know.".

At what point is it fair to question leadership for the product on the field, given how they've clearly underperformed your expectations that you presented to fans at the beginning of the rebuild and during the most recent off-season? What do you think is the main driving factor, beyond injuries, for the team taking a significant step backwards this season; where has all the power gone? Do you believe that there needs to be some accountability for anyone in leadership for how things are unfolding? Why all of a sudden are players being activated and on the 26 man roster who are incapable of hustling without injuring themselves? Why rush unhealthy players back and risk reinjuring them?

I've been an ignorant fool for a long time. These are JR's White Sox. He gets to add Chicago to the game because he has a lease with a stadium he doesn't own in Chicago. They could just as easily be the Nashville White Sox, San Antonio White Sox, or any other city JR wishes to move HIS team. I'm a baseball fan. I've played in over 200 games, attended another 500 or so ( t ball to MLB) and watched too many to count on TV or listened on the radio. I follow two teams in particular. My high school and JR's White Sox. But I've stopped being a fanatic. Being a White Sox fan is like being a fan of a local McDonalds. They are just one of a franchise with a local owner. There are plenty of others that are basically the same. If the customer service at a particular McDs declines because they hired their idiot buddy to manage the store, you don't stop eating at McDs, you just move to a different owner's franchise. If half the staff is out sick and the experience at that store is horrible, you stop at a different one. So JR, I'm sorry but I don't like your franchise much these days. I think you are destroying your location and starting to remind me of Ozzie when he wanted to move to Florida. Perhaps you want to be so disliked by fans the entire city with throw you out and you can move YOUR team to a nice place. Go. I'm past defending, I'm past blaming injuries, I'm way past defending Tony, and I'm well past blaming Tony. I'm finally looking at this as a consumer. Much like you seem to look at this like a personal hobby business for your friends and cronies. I came to Chicago for a visit and for the first time in 50 years avoided attending any games. Instead I played a little golf, visited some friends that I wouldn't have had time for, and enjoyed my stay just fine. Thank you for giving me that gift of time you miserable son of a b****.

I’m old enough to remember when I wanted to evaluate this team two weeks after they got Lynn back… still doesn’t look good. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

Someone yelled "pinch hit you f'ing idiot" at the HOFBP. It took him 15 minutes to wake up and sent Zavala up to hit in the 7th. Unbelievable.

These are the types of swings we'll need to see for him to tap into all of his raw power. I don't think the oppo approach will play nearly as well with a dejuiced ball.

There isn't much positive happening, MT. Hard to be happy when the team sucks and it isn't supposed to

I am continuing to move closer to believing that this is as much if not more Hahn than it is Tony....and I am not saying Tony is by any means not an issue. Look at the bench at the end of last night's game. They are currently playing with one outfielder and he is told to not run very hard. Last year Hamilton/Goodwin etc could at least play defense and bring a little spark. There is not one defensive player that is above average on this roster, then you couple that with the fact that there is no power on this team. From the bullpen side they signed a guy that was already injured and a guy that could not go back to back days. And in closing they felt Dallas Keuchel was the answer. Fire Rick Hahn.... Luis Gonzalez would be their best outfielder currently and they saw no need for actual outfield depth. I understand any team could have taken him and didn't but teams like their players and Gonzalez wasn't moving the needle for them but for a team that had developed and brought him up and had no other outfielders they let him walk....stupid.