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"Moncado" sounds like the name of a two-bit magician

It really seems like they’re basically at their budget already. Just a gross misuse of funds and then pathetic approach by Jerry.

Neither can his side pieces.

Glad Hahn felt compelled to do nothing but acquire Diekman at the deadline left year. Definitely $4M well spent…FML.

I’ll do you one better. Why is Moncado?

Is Johno a real soxtalk poster?

He's doing what the owner wants in order to stay employed. And given the amount of money the Sox are making they have no reason to change. Remember with JR fiscal responsibility matters more than winning. Until he goes, nothing will really change. That's the sad truth.

who in their right mind would want to sign a contract with the white sox? a franchise whose goal is to f*** players in incredibly team friendly deals and refuse to improve the team? Not to mention the terrible coaching/player development, and one of the worst training staffs in the league. Unless you are a journeyman or old veteran, who in their right mind would sign here?

LMAO ....they are getting outbid even for a Plan D option. That's pretty pathetic even for this team.

They've finished .500 or below in 8 of the last 10 seasons. If you're still on the fence after that...

Same. If anything he was one of the only players who always had the energy during games.

Can't say I've ever questioned TAs drive

Didn’t Hahn ask for Rafael Devers or Xander Bogaerts instead of Yoan Moncada in the Sale trade? Boston knew what they were doing.

Yes, they think we're idiots. Always have, always will.

Gallo played 6 innings in CF in 2022. Before that he played 1 inning in 2020. In 2019 he played 310 innings in CF and that was when his sprint speed was 69.8 so faster than 70% of the players in baseball. In 2022 he was faster than only 46% of all players in baseball. We saw Pollock in CF last year and he is faster than 60% of the players in baseball. This is on Baseball Savant. He should never play CF, But hey the Sox have put square pegs in round holes in the OF before. I'm sure he do fine but if you want a guy to flag down doubles and triples into the gap he's more likely to give up more of those hits than he is going to prevent them in CF.

Dunn 2.0

This guy is so out of touch with reality.

Lol they really dont give a s%*# about sox fanbase,zero sense of anger exists right now,wtf they think we are idiots?

“In the end, we’re not going to force it,” Hahn said. “We’re going to wait for the right deals to present themselves and then act accordingly.” Jesus fucking Christ, we aren't you gonna force it? The sense of urgency is reallllllly missing with this people. They do know that this team has a limited window, rigght? The minor league cavalry is not going to arrive year after year or sustain much. Bueller?

I don't think Crochet was inexcusable. The organization is just short-sighted and nobody is on the same page.

I just wonder what the plan is moving forward. If everything goes as planned., whenthe contracts of the current Sox players expire , if they played as hoped,they all will be too rich for JRs blood. So no TA, no Robert, no Moncada, no Colas, no Vaughn, no Gio, no Cease, no Kopech. the White Sox ownership and front office need a reality check. Either financially, philosophically or both, they are no longer suited to own and run a major league franchise that ever expects to win championships.

At this point, let’s just pick up Benintendi or Conforto and be done with the offseason. I’m tired of checking to see if anything happened and afraid Lenny/Hahn will make yet another dumb trade.

The team fell apart when Madrigal got hurt. He was the MVP of our club in 2021

Was yoan moncada or Eloy Jimenez f***ed in incredibly team friendly deals? Hard to even say Robert was.

Pedro seems almost too good to be true. The problem I have is they can’t rely on him to fix everything. They were short in 2021. They still have those same holes today. Plus a catcher a couple of years older, and most likely not a 4 WAR player anymore. And they lost Abreu. So that isn’t even counting what they need to snap back. Everything goes right, the team will be fine. But that normally doesn’t happen. We all should have known better. This is how the team operates. They never have been willing to stick their neck on the line to be awesome. All that banked money from the rebuild we were promised would be there, is somewhere else.

He’s not great, but it does make sense. They do need depth behind starting LF Mark Payton.

I went over Gallo's line drives/grounders last year that had a xBA of .500 or more that ended up being outs . I found 5 outs that probably will be hits with the exaggerated shift being banned. That would improve his .160/.280/.357 slash line from last year to .174/.293/.371. The shift alone isn't gonna save Gallo. I also found out that Max Kepler would have had an extra 11 hits without the exaggerated shift. That would have improved his line from .227/.318/.348 to .255/.344/.376.

Baseball franchises are insanely profitable right now. League wide the average revenue is more than $10 billion. That’s at least $330 million yearly per team on average. A team filling its park will generate quite a bit more than that. The costs of running a ballpark have risen a little but revenues have doubled in like 10 years. The true breakeven point therefore for most teams has to be 70% or 80% of their revenue going to players. If the Padres have a full ballpark and playoff games it isn’t crazy at all to think they’re still profitable with a $300 million payroll. Teams that have payrolls less than $200 million are for the most part just printing money.

Chris Sale was traded on this day 6 years ago for Yoan Moncada, Michael Kopech, Luis Basabe, and Victor Diaz. The trade signaled that the Sox were tired of being "mired in mediocrity" and that a full blown rebuild had begun. It is pretty clear that this trade was a total failure for the White Sox. Sale helped Boston win a world series in 2018. He has been hurt for the last few years and will likely never be the same stud that he once was. However, flags fly forever and Sale helped Boston accomplish its goal of being world champions. As for the Sox, Victor Diaz and Luis Basabe are no longer with the organization and likely out of professional baseball altogether. Moncada's career with the Sox is heading south fast. Sox fans were promised Robinson Cano junior but instead got someone more similiar to Ryan McMahon or Jonathan Schoop. The warning signs with Moncada were 100% present at the time of the trade as well. The Sox are now stuck with an overpaid dude who seems more interested in binge eating twinkies, fast cars, and making lame music videos. Things haven't worked out so great with Kopech either. 6 years later and the guy has only made 33 starts in a White Sox uniform. Gone are the days of the young flamethrower wowing Sox fans by throwing 105 mph in his Instagram workout videos. Sox nation thought they were getting a hard nosed Texan fireballer like Nolan Ryan or Kerry Wood. Instead they got a dude with a similiarity score way closer to Keegan Thompson. Let this trade be a lesson for all of White Sox nation who cheered on the tank job. Tanking with a front office lead by Rick Hahn and KW, and JR as the owner, was a terrible idea from the start and destined to fail. 6 years since the Sale trade and the Sox still haven't won a single playoff series. Complete and total failure all around.

Our guys are worth way more in trade now so maybe Hahn was right. Puke swallowed as I typed that.

100% man

I’m sure it does and good.

But they're not going to GTFO and nobody can make them. That's the problem. Even in a big market we're screwed while this guy owns the team.

I tell myself for every dollar Cohen spends, a piece of Jerry dies to deal with the pain.

It is good for baseball because cheap owners can't hide the truth anymore. Either get with the program or GTFO.

And some people think this is good for baseball. What a fucking joke.

The NL is going to be such a gauntlet next year. The Dodgers, Padres, Braves, Phillies, & Mets all look like potential 100 win teams right now.

Truth. The assholes.

I am sure they will find an okay player no other team wants eventually.

Can't help but wonder if Hahn blames twitter again for this "falling through."

Yup, may the baseball gods take mercy on our souls

Gallo could only dream to have Dunn's offensive career.

I was thinking the same, but ultimately Jerry is still likely to still be around whenever rebuild 3.0 comes to an end. There are no good solutions for the Sox issues until there's new ownership in charge.

If true, it’s embarrassing AF and we should be selling off everything because we can’t compete in the modern MLB environment with how the roster is currently constructed

The Sox front office has an incredible amount of contempt for the fanbase, its paying customers. They think we're fools and Jerry's 2nd place schtick is a troll job that he enjoys the hell out of.

Pretty sure Conforto will be the last free agent outfielder to sign.

Not that it's worth defending Madrigal, but the ~111 wRC+ he put up while on the Sox is very good. That number would be top 10 at 2nd base pretty much every year. The biggest issue was he couldn't/can't stay on the field and his defense was below what we were expecting from him. But he hit well in the minors and was objectively a good hitter on the Sox even if people want to fixate exclusively on the lack of power.

That "Defensive rating" column though includes the positional adjustment value for playing SS. Tim had a negative UZR last year and if I limit to guys who played 500+ innings at SS he was 29th out of 35. He was also negative on OAA and DRS last year, so all 3 defensive metrics say "This guy was below average for a shortstop". If you want to say it this way, he was a "well below average shortstop but an average player because shortstop is such an important defensive position".

Live shot of Rick trying to lure free agents to the Southside.