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I’ve never wanted him back since he quit on the team but might as well let Ozzie captain this s%*# show and let the chips fall where they may, nothing to lose at this point. It would at least be more interesting.

I have a feeling Kenny’s “accountability” comment is going to go in White Sox lore like these other gems: “We’re going to make this a first-class organization.” – Eddie Einhorn 1/29/81 “Wherever you’re at, Harry (Caray) and Jimmy (Piersall), eat your hearts out. I hope people realize what scum you are.” – Jerry Reinsdorf 9/17/83 “Our goal is to have a team that is a contender every year.”– Jerry Reinsdorf 9/18/83 “We feel we owe this town a winner or a contender every year.” – Jerry Reinsdorf 10/2/85 “The fact is, Larry Himes cannot get along with anybody. You can hardly find anybody in the Sox organization that wasn’t happy when Larry Himes left.” – Jerry Reinsdorf September 1990. “I’m a dove until they strike” – Jerry Reinsdorf August 1994 “Anyone who thinks this Sox team can catch Cleveland is crazy.” – Jerry Reinsdorf 7/31/97 “You can’t spend a dollar if you only have fifty cents” – Kenny Williams “Talk to me after the parade” – Rick Hahn “There are fans out there who want the rebuild to fail so they can say, ‘I told you so’” – Rick Hahn White Sox fans don’t forget…

Accountability has to exist before it can be a problem.

I’m not “building around” anyone. Everyone would go and we start over. Keep Banks and Martin to start games. Zavala to catch. And Oscar Colas and Bryan Ramos of the 40-man. They literally could trade everyone else and I’d be happy about it.

100% this. It's a cultural issue. Changing a s%*# culture in an organization/environment/workplace is so very difficult. Especially if it's one that has been ingrained for years.

If the White Sox were a birth stone, they'd be rock bottom.

The roster has decayed to such a point where I don't think it matters who the manager is. I get the Pedro frustration, but there's no salvaging this.

There has never been any accountability when it comes to you KW ever. You have a job for life, If the Sox don’t win another game all year, you will still be employed. This is the biggest crock of ?statement from KW.

What it comes down to is that it just is NOT that difficult to draft and develop a 2WAR corner outfielder. Free agency is a fine way to improve your roster, but in terms of dollars, it’s by far the most inefficient method available to teams. Invariably, teams are going to end up with a hole or two to fill with average players, and so the premium is worth it to pay to complete the team. But if you find yourself spending the bulk of your budget building your roster with veteran role players through free agency, there’s just no way you can stretch it to the point that you can ensure you can also make sure you have depth, extend your stars, make aggressive deadline moves, etc. The $/WAR number is a curve with a bump in the middle; there is surplus value to be found on both tails: cheap bounceback candidates on the low end and superstars on the high end. You never want to be in a position where you need to buy at the middle of that curve if you can avoid. Bizarrely, that seems to be the White Sox actual plan. Or at least they seems to be pretending that those players in the middle actually belong on the high tail. Better franchises focus on developing the types of players that end up in the middle, and if they can do so in sufficient number, they can focus their free agent spending on the tails. You want BUY 26-year old Manny Machado instead of relying on being able to develop his equivalent out of the spoils of two or three trades. Between this tendency to buy Benintendi-types and the fetish for signing veteran relievers at their peak market value, the White Sox FO seems malignantly obsessed with spending money in the least efficient way possible. It’s frankly embarrassing that this group is led by an Ivy League business grad, because the consistency of this tendency just defies explanation.

At least they play in the AL Central….so tired of hearing this s%*#, it’s the worst built in crutch this organization has and has been spewed by broadcasters and this organization for too long. Terrible rational to spin to the fans…

A live boy, or a dead girl

the only thing that would shake up the front office is JR in the ground.

Last years White Sox were bad. They were held together by Hendriks, Cease, and miracles of finding Cueto and Andrus and having them be way better than one could ever have believed. This years’ White Sox were clearly worse coming into the year, some people just didn’t want to see that. Without the miracles, a worse roster is performing worse.

The first clue was clubhouse reaction to Anderson's All-Star selection...

Vlad & Eloy will always be linked to me given their similar profiles as players. were close together on prospect rankings, debuted the same year etc etc etc it's wild how much their careers have diverged since

My friend and I do this thing where we imagine what baseball players would be if they had no baseball talent. We figured Clevinger to be working the Tilt o whirl at the traveling carnival.

Loser org

One of his quotes is "Accountability around here is not a problem." So KW is in LaLaLand.

Supposedly not major…so a month or so

“We’re only 6 back. Relax”

If were gonna burn it all down, who better than Ozzie to light the fuse

I just want the blowhards who kept saying “it’s on 10 games relax” to show their faces and say “sorry, you guys were right”

Robert is one of the most talented hitters I've ever seen in a Sox uniform and he has a .240 OBP. what the hell are we doing here

I see no reason Pedro should have this job

I miss Ricky

Nothing to lose at this point. Would definitely bump up attendance until the novelty wore off after a month or so.

You know it’s really bad when you just don’t care anymore. I have to remind myself to check the score of White Sox games. It’s been all downhill since they fired Rick Renteria.

Clevinger, to no one’s surprise, is total trash on the mound. What in the hell was Hahn thinking

I’m ready for the entire whitesox baseball experience to be over

Sox will be what the Blackhawks were until Dollar Bill died.

for the record, I enjoy talking with you guys more than watching these sorry sacks of ? pretend to be good at their jobs ?

In most organizations, guys with talent don’t regress at 25.

Robert's OBP is .245

Lol dude is 3 for whatever on fastballs and this goof ball hangs a Fucking slider. I swear I'm longing to bring Coop back

That dude should have been fired in 2013

Technically he's correct. It's not a problem if there is none.

I honestly thought after Robert made that great catch yesterday, it was going to be the turning point of the season. He was smiling, the team was fired up. The next 4 batters scored, the game, and the season, were over.

What an embarrassing list to still be on. But, it goes with the territory. If we don't get ownership relief at some point in my lifetime, there is no reason to think it will ever change. Hell, even the generic, cookie cutter stadium is 32 years old, now. If you don't count the 'classic' stadiums (LA, Bos, CHC), this dump is now the 4th oldest stadium, too. Everything about this organization screams '2nd rate citizen in a 1st rate city'

I don't think there are five keepers.

Cease, Colson, Ramos, Schulz, Mena

With Reynolds signing that eight year, nine figure deal with the Pirates today only three teams have never given out that large (nine figures) contract... Kansas City Oakland (soon to be Las Vegas) And.......... Your Chicago White Sox Great company to be associated with no? ?

Plenty of reason to rip on Hahn without veiled sexism. Come on now.

It was riskier to keep Hahn when they started the rebuild. It was riskier to keep Hahn when they got decent. They should have fired him when they canned Renteria. Hahn had already shown he can't correctly add to a team that may be ready to win. And it's played out to show exactly that. JR can't admit he's wrong, so Hahn will stay, and the Sox will continue to lose.

I 100% think though that the players on the team reflect the same attitude in the front office. The players and front office can all say the right things and identify the problems. But when the front office does not maximize resource they have toward winning, indeed the opposite, the players don't feel any pressure either. When Hahn switched to rebuild, the entire org should have switched full throttle to player dev and scouting. Maybe hahn feels they did, but full throttle for career sox employees is not full throttle for other orgs. Hahn is capable of catching up to where other teams were 5 years ago, and then he rests on his laurels that they did so much. He'll never do enough because he's lazy and entitled.

So the Sox haven't come close to a victory since blowing Game One vs. Tampa. That's so White Sox. We already can point to a moment everybody gave up basically? This franchise I hate to say needs Ricky Renteria back. It's time to right that unfair firing and get the gods of baseball back on our side. Unacceptable. We're close to needing some firings again.

The TLR gaslighting this weekend into Monday is amazing. 1. Rick Hahn should have been let go in 2015 after not being able to handle the La Roche situation, and certainly after 2016 after one of the worst four years in White Sox history. 2 TLR was a bad hire and never should been considered for the job. 3. Jerry was the reason TLR was hired and Hahn remains. #Facts

Schooled is a great term for how the Rays took all three from the Sox. You're not kidding with a fraction of the Sox salary. The Rays starting lineup from yesterday's game: 1. Yandy Diaz 1B - $6,000,000 2. Wander Franco SS - $2,454,545 3. Randy Arozarena LF - $4,150,000 4. Brandon Lowe 2B - $5,250,000 5. Harold Ramirez DH - $2,454,545 6. Issac Paredes 3B - $735,000 7. Luke Raley RF - $722,300 8. Christian Bethancourt C -$1,350,000 9. Manuel Margot CF - $7,000,000 Zach Eflin SP - $11,000,000 Rays other SP's Shane McClanahan - $737,000 Drew Rasmussen - $739,700 Taj Bradley - $720,000 Kevin Kelly - $720,000 Tyler Glasnow - 15 Day IL - $5,350,000 Rays bullpen used during 3 game Sox sweep Cooper Criswell - $720,000 Garrett Cleavinger - $725,000 Jason Adam - $1,775,000 Colin Poche - $1,175,000 Yonny Chirinos - $1,275,000 Jalen Beeks - $1,375,000 Pete Fairbanks - $3,666,666 That my Sox friends is the blueprint for an organization that completely understands and implements how a baseball team should properly Scout, Draft, Sign FA's, Make solid trades and most importantly, DEVELOP talent in their farm system. They have been doing this for the last 15 years in arguably the toughest division in baseball. It is so damn irritating our Owner and FO don't have an ounce of a F*^king clue to this blueprint concept.