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Liam like all others need to be rushed back because this organization is a fucking trainwreck.

Bingo. our 1st pick in next years draft will be Andrew Madrigal.

My man had 5 whole innings of "Spring Training", and they weren't a good 5 innings. Really no reason whatsoever, to try and rush him not only up to the bigs, but to put him into a 1 run game in the 8th? But then again, this is the Chicago White Sox organization.

In a professional league, a strike should be called a strike.

The problem is that your hope is my doom and gloom. Because we also have all seen enough baseball to know how this goes. Theyre now as healthy as any team in baseball. That should set them up to play .500 ish ball over the next tough stretch of games. So they go into the all star break 8 or 10 games under .500 but only 6-7 games back in the division. Rick Hahn doesn’t sell anything off and adds a reliever, he spends their draft trying to find other relievers to help right now. One more losing streak in the 2nd half and they finish 8 or 10 games back, but Rick reminds management how hard it was to get to third place and what a great job he did, so nothing changes, again. So we keep doing this, and limp through a 74 win season next year, probably after signing another domestic abuser because we can afford them. You know, hope.

It’s hard to get excited about a draft pick if it’s these same knuckleheads doing the drafting and developing.

He didn't pitch that bad. Key hit was the Moniak blooper. Single. Yaz can't throw. Sac Fly. Single off the shortstops's glove.

Takes a helluva an ump to squeeze Liam coming back from cancer.

I wanted Harper for several reasons (RF, power LH bat), but his “star power” was probably equal to anything he offered on the field. Simply making a non relevant team relevant nationally.

They’re fucked until JR dies. Everyone knows it

Jimmy Lambert to the IL with ERA inflammation.

I just don’t care at the moment. I’ve watched maybe three combined innings in the month of May. I don’t know if they won or lost yesterday and who/if they play today. I only scan threads here now and haven’t posted in awhile. Not proud of any of that. It makes me a little sad. I loved the Sox. I’m going to be 60 in October. JR needs to be out, one way or the other soon. I’d like to enjoy at least one more post-season run in my lifetime. 😢

The White Sox have a net 5.2 fWAR for the season. Their bullpen and four of nine starting positions are negative through Sunday. 2023 22-33 .400 (34% of season) 3.0 Pitching Staff (25th) 3.1 Starting Pitchers (19th) -0.1 Bullpen (27th) 2.2 Position Players (27th) 0.1 Catcher (24th) -0.2 First Base (23rd) -1.2 Second Base (30th) 1.0 Third Base (12th) -0.2 Shortstop (28th) 0.4 Left Field (22nd) 1.8 Center Field (10th) -0.1 Right Field (27th) 0.9 Designated Hitter (9th) Comparison to Previous Five Full Seasons: 2017 67-95 .414 16.0 Position Players (18th) 4.4 Pitching Staff (30th) 2018 62-100 .383 11.3 Position Players (23rd) 9.8 Pitching Staff (25th) 2019 72-89 .447 11.3 Position Players (23rd) 13.2 Pitching Staff (16th) 2021 93-69 .574 22.9 Position Players (9th) 27.6 Pitching Staff (1st) 2022 81-81 .500 15.2 Position Players (21st) 17.3 Pitching Staff (10th) Source: Fangraphs

The Sox have been losing some heartbreaking games

They suck in every aspect

Reinsdorf also hired Kenny Williams as the GM, and while he wasn’t great, he wasn’t the worst in the league. He was a gambler, you’d wind up with surprisingly good years and stunningly bad years under him, leaving the team about average with a regular chance at the playoffs. That is such an upgrade from Rick Hahn it isn’t funny.

This team needs a near total rebuild. It starts with firing Hahn in the next couple weeks and bringing in a GM with a proven winning record with a winning organization. Then you basically start listening to trade offers on everyone. There is no untouchables if the return is right. The whole key is to get rid of Hahn and get someone who knows how to construct a winning team. Of course none of this will happen so F it!

It’s apparent the Sox and TA need to part ways.

Owner doesn't give a s%*# so it doesn't matter what anyone does.

Yaz’s throw was absolute crap, that didn’t help things.

It's pretty clear he wasn't ready watching him in AAA highlights.

Why? If the cancer is gone, why the f*** not? He's healthy. Cancer is gone. Life goes on.

I'd say this is not the best situation for Liam but every inning with this horseshit offense is high leverage.

They didn't want to spend money on Harper and Machado because they prioritized re-signing their young championshit core. Now they can't find anyone who would want them.

A few problems. The fans wanted Machado or Harper. An MVP caliber player that can carry an offense and take pressure of off hitters. The fans saw this team had s%*# defense and DH's playing in the outfield. We watched this team do next to nothing to address the lack of power. Yeah there was hope before, but they truly failed building and supplementing this roster as necessary.

i would like to win this baseball game

He is a bad GM in a bad org. No need to sugar coat it. He built a talented but very flawed roster that succumb to those flaws. He failed miserably at building depth or any semblance of a minor league system that would supplement the club. He’s also burned ungodly amounts of money on crap players while failing to land any impact talent in FA outside of Hendriks. He doesn’t work in baseball again once this gig is over. He is bad, period.

The Dodgers have 5 starting pitchers on the IL right now. What horrible luck. No team could possibly overcome that kind of loss and still be in first place. Injuries man, it’s impossible to prepare for them.

Rick Hahn is a really bad GM.

I'm not blind I can see even when the team is whole it still has holes. There are plenty of reasons for the bitching and complaining and whining that seems to prevail here. Everyone has a right to post their feelings. None of us can affect the outcome of the games or seasons. Even the best teams win championships rarely. Disappointment is the nature of being a fan. Me? I prefer to have hope rather than gloom and doom. Its simply more fun that way. If people are not enjoying being a fan then perhaps they are finding enjoyment in failure. Whatever floats your boat boys. We have all seen enough baseball to know nothing is settled in May. They have been better lately. I see some reason to believe we could find some fun this summer. GO SOX!

I suspect Rick will speak to the media today, focus mostly on Liam’s return, which is fine, then take some questions regarding the struggles. He will say it has obviously hasn’t gone as thought or hoped, but there has been some improvement lately, and with Liam and Crochet and Eloy back, and Clevinger in line to make his next start, he still believes in this team, blah, blah, blah. No one will challenge him. THe one thing I don’t get is those that point to the Sox schedule being difficult in April and some of May. So what? If you expect them to be a playoff team shouldn’t playing them be difficult? If you expect them to do damage in the playoffs, shouldn’t they be able to beat good teams?

Winning the division doesn’t get them any closer to winning a championship

As President Ford once said, "The state of the union is not good."

State of the Union: Rebuild and contention window is closed. Start over and good luck winning the fan's trust back.

This team stinks. I want playoff baseball here since this franchise routinely deprives us all of that far too often. I also want this team to fail miserably so that some sort of change is forced to happen. Ultimately, it's mostly indifference that I feel towards the team now and it sucks.

Thats what a real defensive short stop looks like. Not the wanna be on the other side

They’re not good, there was no death blow. Team was never going to contend with so many busts.

Because Pedro refuses to ever deviate from his script. He’s a horrible, horrible manager.

Tru, but most teams have more than 20 games with 5+ runs.

Not really an ideal spot for his return. You think they pressured Grifol to get him in tonight?

Robert has struck out three times tonight and I don’t think he’s looked good for a few games. Looks lost at the plate

He has no power, no speed and doesn’t draw walks. He’s a defensive specialist that should either be batting near the bottom of the order. Embarrassing result for a once top prospect

One bad inning for Kopech but he was bringing after that. Offense is trying to bring us back

JB and SS making so many excuses for how bad TA is at the plate

There was zero reason they couldn't afford to win the bidding for either Machado or Harper. Zero. Besides JR.

Good thing Grifol didn't start Hanser Alberto tonight. Gonna need him in the pen.

god damn this team, I can't believe we are this far into the season and literally every single starter still has problems with their release point. what the f*** does Katz do for this team, seriously

How much does it suck knowning Hahn is going to lead the next rebuild?

I know the season is possibly shot. However as I lifelong Sox fan, even in losing seasons, it was always nice to watch a special game for a special memory. I am hoping Kopech will continue tonight to control his emotions and keep bringing that nasty electric stuff. We occasionally need that in a trainwreck losing season to keep us going.