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Congrats. Something about "I was right" bragging posts doesn't sit particularly well with me given the topic. This is literally a "No, no one could have predicted or planned for this" setup.

Hahn right now In all seriousness though, I don't think they need another reliever. Losing Hendriks sucks, but they can probably make it work with what they have.

Mic up Liam during therapy, just yelling "f*** YOU CANCER" over and over, kicking it's ass.

I know Liam reads through our posts on Soxtalk.. Liam, you got this buddy! We love you, we’re praying for you and we wish you a speedy recovery. The 2023 season is dedicated to you!

If anyone can kick cancer's teeth in, it's Liam. Best wishes!

Harold thinks a lot of things, whole threads of things he thinks are right. Doesn’t make it so

$1M to get out of this hell hole of an organization. Dude got out cheap. I'm sure there are lots of other players who would take that action.

It’s so frustrating to see teams spend money to put finishing touches on their team, like Jays with Belt, while the Sox are too broke to fill giant holes.

Something else from his past will almost certainly emerge if he stays in the spotlight making hundreds of millions. There are so many reasons why MLB should stay the hell away. I am hopeful they will.

Sox should give a guy like Ken Giles or Alex Reyes a shot. Try to get a boom or bust type of signing. You probably could get Giles on a NRI with the possibility of closing as an enticement. No idea what the health status is on either of these guys though.

The other thing with Bauer is that if you sign him, you almost certainly know you will have to deal with him trending for something he does in the future. This isn't just these 2 women who made complaints against him, it's also his online persona, where he's bullied women by "quote-tweeting" things they dared to tweet about him so that his followers go after them, he's fiddled around with the antisemitic "George Soros is evil" stuff which won't go over well with any owners who happen to be Jewish, he's made "jokes" about trans people. You don't just have the risk of him abusing some woman again while you've signed him, you also have the darn near certainty that your team is going to have to deal with something else he says online.

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I do think Bauer is toxic in enough ways where he might not actually pitch in MLB again.

The question has been asked about insurance in this thread, how that may impact the Sox moving forward. So I asked about this with a long time friend of mine who is a member of the mainstream Chicago media. This is the reply just FYI: "I know when the training staff told Jake Peavy there was nothing wrong with him, until his arm nearly came off, there was the issue of insurance and whether the salary would be covered by insurance. Rick Hahn was testy when he was asked whether insurance would cover the salary if Peavy missed the first 1/6th of the season. I think this is the case with Liam, but I'll ask around. I feel terrible for Liam, since he's a straight shooter who can see who's full of crap and who's giving an honest effort. I hope he's consulting with experts outside of Rush Hospital before making a decision on the treatments. I'm a big Crochet fan, but you can't beat experience in the late innings."

You completely misread what I way saying. In no way was I thinking what you’ve suggested here. I was thinking perhaps that the diagnosis killed trade talks, as opposed to the org thinking they could send him elsewhere. We haven’t heard him mentioned in trade speculation in a while and it simply crossed my mind, that is all. Again, my thought was that this shut down trade talks knowing he likely wouldn’t be available and not at all the callous thing you’ve suggested.

Yes. Not to disparage Bill, but he was a starter for one season (308 MLB games over 9 seasons) whereas Karkovice was a solid defensive catcher, and a full time starter for 5 straight seasons (1992-1996), after splitting the job for three years once he turned 25 (1989-1991). Karkovice: 939 G, 13.7 fWAR Nahorodny: 308 G, 1.0 fWAR

Dude, you like the Lions. We get it.

There is zero chance the org knew about this months ago and thought hmmm…maybe we can trade him before this goes public. This is life or death - he probably just found out in past week or two (give or take) and has to immediately begin treatment because you know this is serious s%*#. And this probably had no impact on his tendon / flexor strain that sidelined him. And just to say this a 2nd time because any speculation around this is just a bad look. Come on you really think Sox would have told him last year - hey delay treatment for a few months to finish the season so we can make a final push to maybe back in the playoff and than buy us some time so we can trade you….this isn’t delaying an ankle injury…this is delaying treatment on a life or death condition you are talking about. Zero and I mean zero chance Sox or Liam did that or even thought about it for even a nanosecond.

This is gutting. I have no doubt he will survive but he's widely regarded as the best person in the game. My friend works with Howard Brown, an LGBTQ health center in Chicago and the amount of work he has done for them is immense. Also remembering how vocal he was after the Supreme Court ruling. I'm so proud he's a White Sock. Hope this is a blip and he's back either later this year or next. Just hope he is ok.

Just awful…wish for the best for a great person

Just terrible news. Hoping they caught it early and it’s very treatable.

I don't believe they lost money, either, at least not $10 million. JR has been crying poor for over 40 years, but after 40 years, he still holds onto the team. Don't care what the team is valued at. It is not going to be sold, so I find the number meaningless.

Yeah I’d love to see how those #’s make sense. Can’t be factoring in all revenue streams. There’s 0% chance teams like the Yankees, Phillies and Dodgers aren’t making $ somehow. I don’t care how rich these owners are, there’s no way they are willingly losing 10’s of millions every year. Then again, maybe it’s just a business strategy to report losses for tax purposes? I’m not smart enough/too broke to fully understand how that works tho

I know Forbes is seemingly as accurate as we'll get on the public side, but I don't believe for a second the Sox lost money in 2021. Open up the books and prove it.

I'll go with 12. Officer Karkovice hit one of the longest and hardest hit homers I saw in person at old Comiskey, IIRC it was in 1989 and we were sitting way out in left centerfield in the upper deck about 5 rows up and Karko hit a laser that went over our heads by about 4 or 5 rows. When you think about it, it should have been a roof shot but as I said it was a laser shot, more of a line drive than a moon shot.

Ok point was just some team could be interested lol

A team that has built up credibility with their fan base could pull it off like the Padres or the Mets. You also have teams that have no media coverage like Tampa, Oakland and to a degree Cleveland.

Bonds put up a 1.045 OPS his last year. He didn't leave because he wanted to.

People didn’t like Bauer to start with, including his teammates.

for much worse things too.

I'm shocked people think he won't get a job. Deshaun Watson got a job and I'm not sure this is worse at all. He will get a job from someone.

I guess if you’re gonna eat all the $ regardless….

I am going to guess absolutely no one touches him with his exsiting contract, even if LAD was wiling to pay it. It is worth it for LA to try, but I doubt it happens. Seeing the article where LA met with him and he expressed no remorse or anything to try to soften a potential return, I doubt anyone else in MLB finds him palatable either.

My #1 non-negotiable is - the Bears should absolutely make sure they get a future 1st RP in next years draft. They should enter next year with 2 picks - if for nothing else in a trade down scenario, knowing whomever gets the #1 pick is going to take a QB, you are almost guaranteed that next year's pick will be Top 10 (and just as likely top 5). So you got to get that - cause that is hugely valuable. Beyond that - if you are hedging your bets, having that pick is huge, because if Fields is good - you have multiple assets to continue to build the team in the right area via the draft (and you can always use the asset to trade back and continue to add talent). But you also now have the option if Fields is bad, to have 2 high picks, which means if you don't think you have the QB - you have the ability take another swing at the QB (leveraging those 2 picks to move up in the draft if you ultimately need to) or to trade for a veteran option that is on the market. If I am Poles - I have to do that - because it means I'm sitting in the catbird seat and basically getting 2 shots at the QB (1 is Fields, the other is next year if Fields stinks) and you can do it without gutting your team in any scenario (if nothing else - next year's QB will be in an even better position).

“Lifetime” bans are only for players.

I wish Liam the best as he fights cancer. The only thing that matters is his health.

The good news is this has a high rate of survival.

Serious question, but are you a Lions fan? Not meant to be a dig, but on the best day in recent Bears history, all you seem to care about is a divisional rival who didn’t even make the playoffs.

We know Jerry

I'd target Michael Pittman Jr in a trade with the Colts.

My f*** cancer shirt

It does look like survival rates in Liam’s age group are much higher, and hopefully he is in a stage 1 or 2 scenario. Godspeed. Terrible news.

The recovery rate for NHL is 74%+ in the USA, hopefully they caught it early and he kicks this things ass.

Cancer is fucked up. Thoughts are with him and his family Hoping for a cancer free diagnosis as soon as possible.

Whatever happens, the Bears are going to 100% drive the entire NFL offseason, and I’m here for it

Look if getting called out by Michael Jordan didn't change anything, this is a bug on his windshield.

Prime is different for every player. Traditionally prime was maybe 26-31 or 32. But the super talented have primes that start younger. We probably already missed a couple of Eloy prime years due to injury.

Jerry is a pro CPA, and former IRS auditor, uhhh, I think he's good. The losses also don't include parking revenue, which is entirely his. Making ? year after year, or more likely, 'breaking even' as far as the IRS is concerned. Nothing will change until he dies and the kids sell the team.

The best part from 2006 was Brian Anderson laying out John Mabry with a couple of quick jabs.

Spring Training is next month and there's been no word on either Jason or Steve. This from a franchise in the 3rd largest media market. What a joke.