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Now what kind of motion would make your groin tender while aggravating your shoulder oh wait

the White Sox have challenged 9 calls all year and rank in the bottom 5 of all of baseball. if this is a part of his job description, then he's failing at it; regardless of what else he does for the team. if he's so valuable elsewhere move him there and get him out of this position. i know you love to stan for larussa and i guess now kash, but get a grip.

Over-confident message board idiot wanted to trade Andrew Vaughn, Dylan Cease and Nick Madrgial for Michael Conforto before the 2021 season. I love this place.

He clearly failed at his job yesterday. If he does a ton, great. Leave replays to someone who can handle the job. Why would the 29 other major league teams be able to challenge the play, but you are making excuses for this guy? Pretend his last name is Madrigal.

Soxtalk in a nutshell ?

Hurt it trying to loosen up his groin.

This particular situation boils down to a basic understanding of the rules. There is nothing to lose by challenging the TA play in the 7th. The Cesar play in one thing - not reviewing the TA play is a terrible mishap by the staff, the review team and everyone involved. Tony should just put his hands on his ears before even phoning the room in that scenario. He either doesn't get the rules, or doesn't like them. Whoever is the in the replay room should understand this lack of understanding and immediately call for a review in that scenario. Its truly baffling. This is the type of shit we saw a ton of the first 2 months of the season. TLR seemed to mostly settle in recently and grasp the modern rules, but the ineptitude resurfaced yesterday.

Kelenic is going to be great, but Harold seems to think he's a combo Mickey Mantle/ Willie Mays only better, and that Mike Trout is a poor man's version of him. OTOH, he also pegs Nick Madrigal as perhaps the worst player to ever play baseball.

Fair take. Now don't you have an odd Jarred Kelenic-obsessed thread to update?

This whole organization is incompetent from top to bottom and has been since Einhorn & Reinsdorf bought the team and promised a "first class operation." The only thing they were successful at was bilking taxpayers to pay for their stadium.

Know nothing message board idiot wants to fire guys. I love this place.

This is such bullshit. Kash is an incredible guy and he does a ton for the organization. It's a very difficult job and a totally fucked up system but they call him out to appease the idiot mob. That's fuckin bullshit.

From the Chicago Sun Times Article by Steve Greenberg: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2021/8/15/22626399/white-sox-and-their-replay-system-need-to-sharpen-up Michael Kashirsky is listed in the Sox website as a "Pre Game Instructor", and is the person named in the linked article as the person who reviews the replays, and discusses challenges with Jerry Narron. We are left to assume that Jerry tells Tony whether to challenge based on this article.

Great win to generate momentum going into tomorrow with our 1.35 ERA ace on the mound.

Soxtalk posters definitely overreacted about Hendriks after the recent blown saves. He was electric tonight.

Nightly reminder: We gave up 5 years of Madrigal and Heuer for this.

Dallas trying to get one of those "worst pitcher in baseball" commercial gigs for 2023.

Keuchel post game: "I told Seby, 'Look bro, don't let me throw ANY pitches' and he looked at me like I was crazy, but I was serious. But he kept putting down signs."

Announcer on ESPN, “Eloy has been great and leading the team offensively since his return but they didn’t really need anyone - as they were a pretty good team at the plate before getting him back.” Uh… ok.

No, TLR is ultimately responsible. If it's close, you make the call. Waiting on the booth is stupid in a close game. Challenges don't carry over. There is nothing to lose. Face it. We're being out managed in every game.

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Well if he's the one missing all of these (been happening a lot all year), maybe we should find someone else to be our review guy and if Kash is so good, he can stay in his other roles.

This much seems obvious. In a close game, it seems obvious that two extra outs could have made a very big difference. It is also not anywhere close to the first time this has happened. SOMETHING in the process we have is broken, and needs to be fixed. I don't know if this is the protection of an information source or what, but it isn't a crazy leap of faith to believe that something isn't working right in this area.

Promote him to assistant to the GM and then get someone who can watch a monitor and make a phone call.

Luckily our division is horse shit and we can probably win it with 80-85 wins, but I don’t understand the notion that these games are meaningless. Wouldn’t you rather see continued growth/improvement from the players which ultimately leads to wins for the team in the playoffs? Nothing since the all star break makes me believe this team is a serious contender for the World Series and isn’t that the ultimate goal? I understand health is number 1, but if they are all healthy and playing like shit, what’s the difference?

Modern technology? Heck, I saw it on the TV replay!

Perhaps, depends on who he brought in for bench coach and or the review videos. Jerry Narron isn't necessarily a spry chicken at 65 years old, young in Tony's orbit but a generation removed from A. J. Hinch and his peers. One of several areas the Sox would definitely improve on would be defensive shifting. Hinch's Tigers are 4th in baseball, Sox 27th from last, with the Tigers shifting at just under twice the rate (38.4% vs. 19.7%). Not sure what unwritten rules intelligent defense violates in Tony's mind. The Sox under Ricky Renteria were just under league average, and (34.2% vs. 29.3%), and employed 48.7% more than Tony does it. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/visuals/team-positioning?teamId=117&venue=home&firstBase=0&shift=1&batSide=&season=2021 Would really help accommodate his platoon fetish and the terrible defensive "pseudo outfielders" (Lamb, Sheets) and Goodwin who ranks (423rd in MLB in Outs Above Average out of 473 total defenders).

Jose safe at first despite his best efforts

He's a rookie, he'll no doubt get better.

Lost 5 out of 6 to the Yankees, we sucked against Houston I believe. If we were in the west or the east we’d not be a playoff team.

So would have a right fielder

I can’t believe people are calling it a hit and run. That’s one of the dumbest, most absurd things I’ve heard, and when I read this message board in the future, all of their opinions now mean nothing to me. Good lord.

Yan Gomes would have looked very nice

Vaughn going to DH or the bench and Goodwin playing RF seems so much like exactly what I'd expect from LaRussa that I don't feel suspicious at all.

Moncada at 5......

they would have even higher stats if they had challenged the handful of obvious ones everyone has seen.

I get Burdi has been horrible, but dropping him over someone like Rutherford is crazy to me. Also, with Collins falling apart, Madrigal traded, and Rodon potentially leaving after this season, perhaps Hahn shouldn’t have been hyping all those 1st round contributors.

his numbers were strong in AAA. all hands on deck as we try and limit innings. we've got the division wrapped up ... i could care less about momentum over the next 21 days. get this team primed and ready to go starting around mid-september. let engel rest and get healthy. let everybody rest and get healthy. i have a feeling were gonna have some sox fans soon that are going to be reallll antsy when we win like 3-4 games over these next 3 series against the A's, Rays, and Jays.

Contrary to Stoney the TBS broadcast team said that runner was safe both times, and were surprised Sox did not challenge, particularly in the 7 th where we had nothing to lose by challenging. Something needs to change on current replay process.

He should know the rule and not waste a microsecond to know to challenge the call to end the 7th as there is literally nothing to lose by challenging that even if you are wrong.

The only explanation I can come up with is that Narron must've been talking to the Yankees replay room lol.

So you think anyone with the White Sox questioning him about not challenging is more than likely a no nothing? Looking at replays isn't very sophisticated.

The Hernandez play was close. I think he was safe, but it might not have gotten overturned. The second one was blatant. The first baseman's foot was clearly off the bag. Plus, there was nothing to lose by challenging it there. A really bad miss by whoever was supposed to make that decision. Steve Stone didn't help by saying over and over again how Hernandez was out and how great a play it was. He even said a few times one the second play that it was "too close" until Mike Monaco said something about his foot clearly being off the bag.

Based on totals, Yankees and Astros have more players and lost time this season than any AL teams. Now the importance of the players who lost time is somewhat subjective. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/disabled-list/cumulative-team/

Wouldn't have this problem if AJ Hinch were the manager ?

Why is it a shocker when we're not exactly on the cutting edge when it comes to modern technology, analytics, etc.?

Yes. The Yankees having more players out is also reality. That doesn't mean I think the Yankees will make it farther than the Sox this year. Can't cherry pick points.

And the Yankees had more players out in this series. That excuse is kinda getting old. There is enough season left no doubt. Just saying.